A spray from the vomit geyser
anon misguidely comments: 122,000 listeners. That is pretty bloody good - no wonder the mayor gets the big bucks.
This refrain of Mickey's supposed radio potency is becoming as tired as... well, as tired as his predictable right wing rants to a dwindling audience. So let's take a closer look at this assertion, shall we?
Radio ratings are calculated by monitoring the audience for those stations who pay to have their names included. That means smaller niche stations such as Auckland's bFM get lumped under "other". And most importantly for our purposes it means listeners to National Radio are simply taken out of the equation altogether. However, according to NBR in 2005, National Radio had 517,400 listeners aged 15 years and over.
So, bear in mind that the share of the pie accredited to any station is the share of those who listen to commercial radio. In some markets, particularly Wellington, it's likely that National Radio's audience exceeds that of the top commercial talk station, as was explained by Russell Brown on Mediawatch. In the days when National Radio used to be included, it would often be number one in the Wellington market and one of the top-rating stations in most of the large city markets.
The ratings are also a little unfair to talk radio, in that it's unlikely a dedicated listener to say, Mai FM will be induced to switch to John Banks or Michael Laws or Leighton Smith.
So what we've done below is calculate a percentage based on the total audience for commercial talk radio (Newstalk ZB, Radio Live, Radio Pacific, Radio Sport) only in an attempt to fairly measure of how well the competing talk stations are doing amongst those pre-disposed to listen, and against one another rather than against the entire spectrum.
The numbers in brackets are the stations' position in the market (excluding of course National Radio), out of all stations surveyed.
AUCKLAND
Newstalk 195,600 (1st)
Radio Sport 56,700 (14th)
Radio Live 46,900 (16th)
Radio Pacific 30,700 (20th & last)
Total 329,900 of which Mickey's mob have 14% and Newstalk have 59%.
DUNEDIN
Newstalk 13,900 (6th)
Radio Sport 8,300 (8th)
Radio Live 5,500 (11th)
Radio Pacific 3,200 (14th & last)
Total 30,900 - Mickey 17%, Newstalk 45%.
WAIKATO
Newstalk 24,900 (6th)
Radio Sport 13,000 (10th)
Radio Pacific 6,000 (11th)
Radio Live 4,900 (12th & last)
Total 48,800 - Mickey 10%, Newstalk 51%
CHRISTCHURCH
Newstalk ZB 52,700 (5th)
Radio Sport 30,200 (9th)
Radio Live 22,600 (11th)
Radio Pacific 10,000 (14th)
Total 115,500 - Mickey 20%, Newstalk 46%
WELLINGTON
Newstalk 36,900 (3rd)
Radio Sport 18,400 (9th)
Pacific 7,600 (12th)
Radio Live 6,300 (14th & last)
Total 69,200 - Mickey 9%, Newstalk 53%
NORTHLAND
Newstalk 13,300 (4th)
Radio Sport 4,200 (9th)
Radio Live 4,100 (10th)
Radio Pacific 4,100 (11th & last)
Total 25,700 - Mickey 16%, Newstalk 52%
ROTORUA
Newstalk 4,200 (8th)
Radio Live 2,500 (10th)
Radio Pacific 2,400 (11th)
Radio Sport 2,100 (13th & last)
Total 11,200 - Mickey 22%, Newstalk 37%
HAWKES BAY
Newstalk 13,200 (5th)
Radio Sport 7,300 (11th)
Radio Live 5,300 (13th)
Pacific 4,000 (14th & last)
Total 29,800 - Mickey 18%, Newstalk 44%
TAURANGA
Newstalk ZB 17,500 (5th)
Radio Sport 8,200 (10th)
Radio Live 7,200 (11th)
Pacific 4,100 (13th & last)
Total 37,000 - Mickey 20%, Newstalk 47%
TARANAKI
Newstalk 11,600 (5th)
Radio Sport 4,600 (10th)
Pacific 3,600 (11th)
Radio Live 3,200 (12th & last)
Total 23,000 - Mickey 14%, Newstalk 50%
MANAWATU
Newstalk 9,900 (7th)
Radio Sport 7,000 (9th)
Radio Live 6,500 (11th)
Radio Pacific 4,300 (12th & last)
Total 27,700 - Mickey 23%, Newstalk 36%
NELSON
Newstalk 6,300 (6th)
Radio Sport 3,900 (7th)
Radio Live 2,400 (9th)
Radio Pacific 2,000 (10th)
Total 14,600 - Mickey 16%, Newstalk 43%
SOUTHLAND
Newstalk 7,000 (9th)
Radio Live 4,400 (11th)
Radio Pacific 3,500 (12th)
Radio Sport 3,200 (13th & last)
Total 18,100 - Mickey 24%, Newstalk 39%
NETWORK MORNING SHOWS (NATIONAL)
Newstalk ZB 285 200
Radio Sport 67 700
Radio Live 59 900
Radio Pacific 34 400
Total 447,200 - Mickey 8%, Newstalk 64%
Source: The October Research International Radios 2006 survey, the latest data available.
We're not quite where the various anons get their 122,000 figure from - we presume by adding together the above area figures for Radio Live to reach 121,400, then rounding up n(rather generously).
Well here's some other figures for you:
Given that Radio Live's stated aim was to compete with Newstalk ZB, it's not performing at all well. And it's not just the quantitative reviews, either. You'd be hard-pressed to find a kind word for Mickey's performance or that of his Canadian employers. A random selection from a quick search:"Michael Laws' talkback is so desperate to be provocative that is weirdly compelling." - Graham Read on Public Address.
Bad reviews on everything from "Not PC" to "Gay NZ"? Does anyone like poor Mickey? And before some anon replies that 122,000 people do, let's not forget that that's the cumulative audience for the entire station (as are the other figures quoted above). What portion of the 121,400 (to be precise) Mickey gets, RadioWorks aren't saying.
"I find Mr Laws to be the worst of a rotten lot... I actually thought that talkback presenters were there to facilitate discussion. But nowdays, instead of Radio Live talkback, with Michael Laws, (which is what it once was), we have The Michael Laws Show, on Radio Live. IMO that is where it is going wrong." - mauggie, commenting at zillion.co.nz.
"I miss good intelligent debate... I miss people taking me on on some issue of the day... it's a sad day when I rely on Michael Laws and Steven Joyce on Radio Live for my intelligent conversation" - Megan, writing on Tim and Megan.
"I found Radio Live on the AM, but Michael Laws was saying nothing to me about my life." - Russell Brown on Hard News.
"...listening to Laws’ programme is like watching from space as the issues of the day circle majestically in orbit around the huge, gaseous planet of Laws’ ego" - Ryan Brown-Haysom on Critic.
"...some radio broadcasters (in particular Michael Laws) weren't satisfied with these solutions and instead put forward their own - solutions based on blatent falsities." - Mirage Media.
"...Yep, as always Mr Laws is spot on. :roll: We're so lucky to have such top quality media people in this place. :laugh:" - George M, commenting on the EmigrateNZ forum.
"The Mayor of Wanganui, Michael Laws, says it's because the late Tongan king was a despot and "a big brown slug" who ruled a corrupt country. Nice." - Jacqueline Maley and Alexa Moses in The Sydney Morning Herald.
"I didn't ring up and challenge Laws-unto-himself with the fact that he is a fear mongering f***wit who trades in race baiting because the power had come back on and thankfully I could do more important things like cleaning the dishes..." Martyn Bradbury on Tumeke.
"I really hope that this is just over the top redneck thought babble aimed at saving Radio Live from another abysmal ratings book – but the glee he seems to take in justifying the sterilization of ‘undesirables’ makes for truly offensive reading." - Bradbury again.
"Michael Laws was quite abusive to people who didn't agree with him." - Judy Standeven commenting at The Briefing Room.
"Michael Laws... can anyone say 'tired' and 'witless'" - Peter Cresswell on Not PC.
"I swear the Laws guy needs to just shut the **** up. I hated him the first time I ever saw him when he was on a Radio Live television ad. He's standing there with a black background and he's spouting opinion after opinion like a vomit geyser." - Jonas on the NZ Games forum.
"Devlin and Laws are well past their audio use by dates." - mediahax commenting at Tumeke.
"As Radio Live, the talkback stablemate of Radio Pacific, pulls out all the stops to drag up a viable audience for prospective advertisers, it seems to be pinning its hopes of success on stirring up redneck New Zealand." - feature article on GayNZ.com.
"There are countless media dickheads who make futile attempts at becoming prophets. Today it's the Wanganui Wanker a.k.a Michael Laws." - Don Murray, a racing astrologer (no, really) on Thoroughbred Net.
RadioWorks' 70% owner, Canadian company CanWest, has hired investment bank Citigroup to consider the future of its Australasian assets and is seen as a likely seller this year. While Brent Impey valiantly struggles to portray his recklessly hurling buckets of money at a pet project that's going nowhere as being "in it for the long haul" we can't see the new owners being quite so bullish about propping up this deceased donkey.
We wonder whether CanWest have bothered asking Impey why, when New Zealand already had two conservative-oriented talk networks in the form of Newstalk ZB and Pacific slugging it out for a small audience, he didn't have the foresight to introduce something different, and instead populated Radio Live with more tired, predictable fogeys like Laws and Paul Henry, thus ensuring its demise. We might just be tempted to buy some shares so we have the right to inquire.
Fortunately for Mickey, he got Impey to sign his "big bucks" contract before the sale, so whoever takes out Canwest's trash will no doubt have to buy him out to be rid of him.
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51 comments:
So Laws DOES have 122,000 listeners - that's impressive.
What you did not say is that CanWest (according to the Sunday Star Times profile earlier this month) is that CanWest makes more profit than other media outlets AND that they recently signed Laws and Paul Henry to 5 year contracts.
In other words, theyre smart businesspeople and have identified their 'stars' which was also in the SST article - that Laws and John campbell are being groomed as "stars" by CanWest.
Laws has also taken over breakfast from Martin Devlin so they must have serious faith in the guy.
For a talk radio station startring from scratch, those ratings are impressive. Impey is also quoted as saying that Radio Live is already making a profit.
I checked out that survey - Radio Live picked up 17,000 new listeners last survey according to the site.
You pay to go in the survey but it is not relevant what bFM got because they still get included in 'other'.
Here's what it says,
National Commercial Radio CUME
(in thousands of listeners)
Comparison: 2/2006 - 1/2006 (Monday to Sunday, midnight to midnight)
Ratings courtesy of Research International - www.radios.co.nz.
All listeners aged 10+ 2/2006 1/2006 + / -
Newstalk ZB 407.0 423.1 -16.1
Classic Hits 381.6 383.1 -1.5
The Edge 378.7 409.8 -31.1
The Rock 374.5 351.2 +23.3
ZM 359.1 349.8 +9.3
More FM 335.8 332.9 +2.9
The Breeze 230.2 136.1 +94.1
Radio Hauraki 198.1 219.9 -21.8
Solid Gold 189.2 214.0 -24.8
Coast 173.3 156.4 +16.9
Radio Sport 167.2 193.6 -26.4
Mai FM 154.7 168.8 -14.1
Radio Live 121.9 104.2 +17.7
Flava 96.3 95.9 +0.4
Radio Pacific / Trackside 85.4 104.0 -18.6
Viva 79.3 83.5 -4.2
Niu FM 46.6 33.4 +13.2
Kiwi --- 43.0 ---
2/2006 1/2006 + / -
CanWest Combo 1214.4 1195.8 +18.6
TRN Combo 1326.9 1346.5 -19.6
All Radio 2092.3 2083.2 +9.1
Potential (000) 2473.2 2464.4 +8.8
Sample 16718 17013 -295
Error Margin +/- 0.80% 0.75%
So the mayor has a radio audience three times the district of Wanganui? Plus a Sunday Star Times column (what's the circ? 650,000?)
plus a SKY sports show? That is not a bad 'reach'.
I pity Lawswatch. Obsessed, cowardly, sorely lacking in their own life. Stop wasting your time. Get out and do something useful
As usual, when the facts are revealed, they reveal Mickey as a liar. Or so divorced from reality that he should be committed. What a loser.
National Business Review editorial today on 'What makes a mayor?'
"In Christchurch, Gary Moore's decision to quit while still in his prime will be hard for many to accept. He has exemplified the new leadership style and, like Ms Prendergast, has given his city a progressive image of votality and energy.
The same can be said for Tim Shadbolt in Ivercargill and Michael Laws in Wanganui, among others. These cities have gained national reputations because of their mayors.
Sadly, Mr Laws is not seeking re-election but he has proved his point and with luck his change mandate is likely to continue."
So Laws DOES have 122,000 listeners - that's impressive.
No, he doesn't - anymore than Kathryn Ryan has half a million listeners just because National Radio does. Those figures are for stations, not hosts, and are the count of every single person who listens in a week.
To quote Radios, the cume is: "the number (in 000s) of different listeners in a target group reached by a station over a specified time period".
In other words, if you listened to Marcus Lush for 8 minutes or more in a single quarter hour and didn't listen to a single minute of Radio Live for the rest of the week, you become part of Radio Live's "cume".
Exactly the same applies to all the other figures quoted, in the original post and by anon above.
So what do we know? 121,400 have tuned in to Radio Live (not necessarily Mickey) for at least 8 minutes at some time during survey week. Whether they listened to Mickey; whether, having heard him, they ever listened again; whether they chose to listen for more than 8 minutes or quickly tuned to another station - we don't know, and nor do the anons (unless of course they happen to work for the station, which gets given much greater detail).
If anyone from Radio Live would like to share just how many listeners Mickey does get, and how long they listen to him for, you can email us, or get Radios to. Provided the information comes from an address within either of those two organisations, we pledge to publish the information unexpurgated.
Or to you, Mickey...
LawsWatch: you got dicked. stop digging the hole ...
PS Why - if he wasn't attracting punters - would CanWest have signed Laws to a 5 year contract? They junked Devlin and a couple of other Radio Live hosts and I think one was Kerry Smith but they signed Laws and Henry.
What does that tell this unthinking plod? That Laws is getting audience and is worth his money.
C'mon LawsWatch: admit it. Laws is a commercial success no matter how much you hate him. All his controversy has paid off for him.
Is he a "STAR"? He would have to be on Dancing with the Stars before I was convinced. Those guys and gals were all solid A and B grade listers.
Thank God that New Zealand is a democratic country that allows individuals the freedom to listen to whoever they chose to listen to. However, The vast majority of RadioLive listeners don’t live in Wanganui. They are isolated from Mad Mayor Mickey driving their city down financially and having to endure the embarrassment of the Mad Mayor’s trash talk and disrespect to the majority of Wanganui citizens, which LawsWatch eloquently noted : “ It seems Mickey is ending the year (2006) with an armful of awards.
First there was the "Cheeky Darkie" Award from TVNZ's Eating Media Lunch for his opportunistic post-mortem insult to the King of Tonga (Mickey having worked out that dead people can't sue, or punch you in the nose). Then the NZ Herald gave him a second award for the same insult, its readership citing the Tongan remarks as "The worst insult of 2006".
We were shocked that Mickey received the awards for that comment. We can only assume that the producers at TVNZ and readers of the Herald had forgotten that he used the death of the Kahui twins as fodder for a weak jibe at Britney Spears earlier this year, speculating that she possessed "the Kahui gene". Then again, it is surprisingly easy to forget A Game of Three Losers, when almost no one watched it to begin with."
If Radio live is such a go ahead station just waiting to make stars out of their hosts, how come Devlin walked?
I read the SST column that anon @7.04 quoted
Doesn't CanWest own the SST? so calling Mickey a star is a little bit desperate and contrived.
The truth is in the 2% ratings
Poor Mickey. Reduced to hedging a five year contract from employers who are in it for the short haul. Money for nothing, but the chicks are expensive eh Mickey?
Poor Mickey, from the desperate outpouring of self-affirming comments here he's still the snotty, skinny anti-social kid standing on the sidelines trying to attract attention while the action goes on without him.
Excellent post LW. The grotesque and pitiful chorous is back. Why doesn't the commenter with keyboard diarrhoea do something useful with their life? I'd say it's because he's a talentless and incompetent disgraced politician or something.
Going to love Canwest selling Radio Lifeless. What happened to Game of Three Losers, anyway?
Best take a leaf out of Jude Dobson's book, Mike. Surely someone would give you a gig advertising incontinence pads.
Perhaps our superbly well informed Radio Live deepthroat would also care to tell us what the annual budget for getting Mickey on the back of buses, billboards and Time etc is, and just how many dollars he costs for each listener who takes the bait.
Anonymous said...
Perhaps our superbly well informed Radio Live deepthroat would also care to tell us what the annual budget for getting Mickey on the back of buses, billboards and Time etc is, and just how many dollars he costs for each listener who takes the bait.
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Probably less than it cost per bum on seat at Mad Mickey's Boxing Day bash, about to be bailed out by the ratepayers to the tune of $70K.
Here's a question LawsWatch which suggests that you and most of the anon commenters are the same.
how come when you post a batch of comments that if there's a pro-mayor comment then there's a chorus of negative TO THAT POST when it hasn't actually been posted yet?
and you stay anonymous, why? Because you're gutless. If you had courage you'd own the posts or don't you like being sued for illegal commentary like the CYFS bloggers?
Stop digging LW.
Small tip; Mayor has reconsidered and is standing again.
Anonymous said...
Small tip; Mayor has reconsidered and is standing again.
Bring it on little man
how come when you post a batch of comments that if there's a pro-mayor comment then there's a chorus of negative TO THAT POST when it hasn't actually been posted yet?
What we think this means is that anon believes Watchers "fake" comments. The timestamps on comments can't be altered. The ones on the posts themselves can, but on comments, they can't.
So to fake them we'd need to come back at least an hour apart, often a lot more, and write them. We have better things to do - like writing posts, since we alone have that avenue available for our opinions.
Some anons supporting Mickey, on the other hand, appear mere minutes apart (7.04 & 7.05, 9.56 & 9.57 on this post alone). Clearly no fakery there.
don't you like being sued for illegal commentary
Interesting turn of phrase, anon. Illegal commentary? So adverse comments about your hero ought to be illegal?
If, on the other hand, you mean libellous as opposed to mean, nasty and enough to make someone's mascara run, we'd be interested in your expert legal opinion as to anything on LW which would breach NZs defamation laws (which we know rather well, as it happens).
Small tip; Mayor has reconsidered and is standing again.
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I can believe that, let's face is , he hasn't anywhere else to go. This is his last stop ... poor old Wanganui, another Chas in the making.
I just listened to the transcript of Michael Laws' River Road Rant. I hadn't realised what a racist he is.
Anonymous said...
Small tip; Mayor has reconsidered and is standing again.
1:18 PM, January 27, 2007
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I'll believe it when the Chron publishes it.
CanWest "forced" Wanganui to have to listen to RadioLive.
Say what you like, Mad Mickey knows how to score a bout of cheap publicity in the likes of tatty women's mags and the right wing NBR, not to mention dear old Mas's contribution. AND he's not above using his kids and parents et al for the cause. I'd say he's got pretty good value for money thanks to the "I'm sacrificing my fabulous career for my kids" lie, and when you're a pathological liar, what's another lie between friends and family?
anon said
... and you stay anonymous, why?
And how many anonymous comments have YOU made today, Mickey?
I'll believe it when the Chron publishes it.
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What, on the basis that they're quoting Mickey? You poor sap.
Anonymous said...
For a talk radio station startring from scratch, those ratings are impressive. Impey is also quoted as saying that Radio Live is already making a profit.
7:05 AM, January 26, 2007
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RadioLive is a RadioWorks (CanWest) Radio Pacific spin-off.
Anonymous said...
I'll believe it when the Chron publishes it.
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What, on the basis that they're quoting Mickey? You poor sap.
7:11 PM, January 27, 2007
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Then, prove it. If you can't, then stifle yourself.
Who cares if Mickey sits in a little room with a microphone and wanks himself silly every morning ... at least he's far away enough from Guyton St so that some constructive work can get done there!
Probably less than it cost per bum on seat at Mad Mickey's Boxing Day bash, about to be bailed out by the ratepayers to the tune of $70K.
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$90k
James Colman and Michael Laws are to be prosecuted for breaching suppression orders in the Graham Capill sex abuse case.
What has Colman done to deserve having his name associated with those two scumbags?
Laws in hot water, Sunday star times Jan 28 page 2
Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws and his fellow Radio Live host James Colman are to be PROSECUTED for breaching suppresion orders in the Graham Capill sex abus case. Police are expected to serve the pair and the station with court pappers this week. Laws said any prosecution would simply draw further attention to the victims of Capill's "depravity"
$90k ??? Where do you get that figure? The council minuets has it as $70k, would love to know more...
Can someone stand for mayor if they have a criminal conviction against them?
Let me see:
Laws stands by his comments publicly and gets in hot water.
Laws watch does neither.
Who has more courage of conviction?
And i hope he does stand again just so I can see him whip your pathetic butts.
By the way - why are putting everything in triplicate?
Triplicate?
triplicate?
Anonymous said...
Let me see:
Laws stands by his comments publicly and gets in hot water.
Laws watch does neither.
Who has more courage of conviction?
And i hope he does stand again just so I can see him whip your pathetic butts.
5:29 PM, January 28, 2007
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Phone number: 0-6-347 6817
Can someone stand for mayor if they have a criminal conviction against them?
3:34 PM, January 28, 2007
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Uh - he IS the Mayor
why are putting everything in triplicate?
Blogger doesn't provide threaded comments, so people can't append a rejoinder to a comment and have to write a new one. They then feel obliged to quote the original comment. And then when someone quotes them quoting someone else...
Which is why we've been pleading since we began for people to use nicknames. Just choose "other" and you can make one up. Anything you like. Then stick to it. That way at least people can say "I disagree with Fred" without repeating Fred's entire comment.
Laws stands by his comments publicly and gets in hot water.
Laws watch does neither.
Having shot his mouth off, he doesn't have much option. Stand by it and cop the consequences, or back down and admit he's a prat. You're confusing bravery and expediency, anon.
We stand by our comments. Despite much baying, no one has come forward with evidence to counter anything we've said.
And have stated we're prepared to publish counter-arguments from Mickey or any of his supporters. When did he last accord an opponent that courtesy? Or indeed anyone any courtesy at all?
Can someone stand for mayor if they have a criminal conviction against them?
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ML isn't standing for Mayor (more's the pity) and he doesn't have a criminal conviction against him. Who are you talking about?
Anonymous said...
Can someone stand for mayor if they have a criminal conviction against them?
3:34 PM, January 28, 2007
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Uh - he IS the Mayor
9:02 PM, January 28, 2007
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The 3:34 PM, January 28, 2007 commenter means mayoral candidate(s) and the present idiot to stand re-election dim wit. I am not the 3:34 PM, January 28, 2007 commenter
"$90k ??? Where do you get that figure? The council minuets has it as $70k, would love to know more..."
Maybe a revised figure may be damage control, I don't know. $90k was the figure given to my sister-in-law by a WINC employee.
The Council agreed to underwrite the concert to the tune of $70. Reported losses are $90k. Where WINC will get the other $20k from who knows but given that they are a Council funded entity.....
WINC might have worked but for one thing: everything Michael Laws touches turns to shit.
After the Cooks Concert losing $90K - the ratepayer could be in for another bath - the $64K underwriting of the Mayoral Mile by the WDC. With no stars appearing this year the vibes dont look good. The Cooks Gardens Trust Board wisely refused to run the Boxing Day Concert this year and Laws ordered WINC to step in. Note that he's not issuing press releases about this debacle.
The Michael Laws wankathon today received funding of $200,000 from WDC. A new concept in wank, it will involve the Mayor wanking himself round and around Cooks Gardens to an audience of school-children who have no choice but to be there. Expected to lose money hand over fist, the wankathon is Michael's own idea. "Everybody likes to see me jerking off" he claims. 26 tickets have been pre-sold, exactly matching the number of Wanganui residents who listen to Laws pulling himself every day.
"I'm a wanker", says Michael "everyone knows that."
The Cooks Gardens Trust Board wisely refused to run the Boxing Day Concert this year and Laws ordered WINC to step in.
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Laws ORDERED WINC to step in???
"Then in an unprecedented step, Hitler ordered every member of the military to swear a personal oath of allegiance to him."
So what's new???
On a lighter note to Mayoral Mile, we're still waiting for you Mickey to follow up on your nude run in Ohakune. Riding The Overlander was lovely.
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