Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Time to kia tau

In the course of a (particularly busy) day one might pop into Te Puna Mātauranga o Aotearoa (National Library of New Zealand) to do some research, then travel home over roads which are the responsibility of Ararau Aotearoa (Transit New Zealand) or perhaps fly, secure in the knowledge that Te Mana Rererangi Tumatanui o Aotearoa (Civil Aviation Authority of New Zealand) is regulating the skies.

Waiting in the mailbox might be prospectuses from Te Kuratini O Waikato (Waikato Institute of Technology), Te Kura Akau Taitoka (Dunedin College of Education) and Te Whare Wananga o te Upoko o te Ika a Maui (Victoria University of Wellington) and some information on your benefit from Te Manatu Whakahiato Ora (Income Support).

Sadly, there might also be a bill from Te Tari Taake (Inland Revenue Department) and Te Awa Mana Nui (Mighty River Power Limited) .

Pondering your bank balance might lead you to wish you were amongst the chosen few to whom Te Ratonga Whare Paremata (Parliamentary Service) pay a handsome pension.

Things could always be worse, of course. Nga Pirihimana O Aotearoa (New Zealand Police) or Tahu o te Ture (Ministry of Justice) might be taking an interest in you. Or even Tumuaki o te Mana Arotake Audit Office) or Te Tari Hara Taware (Serious Fraud Office).

So settle back, pour a drink - making sure it's within the limit recommended by Te Kaunihera Whakatupato Waipiro O Aotearoa (Alcohol Advisory Council of New Zealand) and switch on Te Reo Tataki o Aotearoa (TVNZ) or Te Reo Irirangi o Aotearoa (Radio NZ). If you don't like what you see or hear, there's always Te Mana Whanonga Kaipaho (Broadcasting Standards Authority).

Yes, Watchers, many New Zealand organisations have acknowledged the importance of Te Reo to New Zealanders of Maori descent and those many Pakeha who care about such things by way of compromise. They've honoured and acknowledged the place of Maori culture in New Zealand society whilst retaining the names by which the majority of the population recognised and identified them.

That possibly has something to do with the fact that successive governments, both National and Labour, were led by people who realised that generating divisiveness cannot possibly have a positive outcome.

There's some validity in the practical argument that abruptly inserting an "h" into a longstanding name would cause some confusion in terms of what marketers would call "brand recognition". And it's debateable it would have the desired effect of causing the traditional name to be pronounced correctly - just ask the residents of Whangarei and Whakatane.

(Though we doubt such logical arguments were in the forefront of the minds of those who voted 'no' to the 'h' in the refereendumb).

There's certainly validity in the feeling of local iwi that allowing a "bastardised" version of a Maori word to stand as a place name is insulting and creates disunity, and feel disrespected by the fact that such a decision was subject to a referendum at all.

Mindful of these conflicting needs, a responsible and inclusive leader would look for a compromise which reflected the outcome of the referendum and took account of the practical issues whilst acknowledging the importance of the Tangata Whenua and New Zealand's history.

He certainly wouldn't splutter forth with bile suggesting that it's arrogant of independent organisations who've chosen to adopt the Maori spelling to insist on retaining their names - especially when they'd face exactly the same branding issues as the town if they were to change to a non-'h' name.

But that's a responsible and inclusive leader. W(h)anganui, alas, has the Diva.

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47 comments:

Anonymous said...

The "H" was just another tool to get people to vote, the Diva knows how to manipulate the masses.

Anonymous said...

Very good Lawswatch...
Yes his divisionship has got a great little re election thrust enlisting the redneck vote. Yes a true leader would unite...

Anonymous said...

Huge percentage of voters don't want the h - what more does it take, LW ???

Anonymous said...

There is another (more realistic) possibility: with 82% of Wangani agreeing with him, the mayor might just be a better representative of public sentiment than anyone in here.

Anonymous said...

Derek Fox on national radio sounded great today, he raised the interesting question of who will put themselves up against the Mad Mayor Michael .. oh Micael sorry.... next time.

Laws Watch said...

Huge percentage of voters don't want the h

Is it really necessary to list the many historical examples of misguided majority rule? Or would you have advocated slavery in the 17th century on the basis that the majority thought it was just fine and dandy?

Having said that, we're not advocating Council ignore the outcome of the referendum, but that it show some leadership and seek a compromise which, while not changing the name of the town, goes some way toward acknowledging the valid feelings of the minority.

Laws Watch said...

with 82% of Wangani agreeing with him...

There's an idea - if the 'h' is superfluous, who needs the 'u'?! ;-)

You mean 82% of 55% don't you? Which by our reckoning is 45% of the total population. Agreeing with him on 'status quo' issues which, given the inherently conservative nature of people, have a natural advantage over untried alternatives.

Heck, even we've agreed with him on a few things but we doubt even he'd have the chutzpah to number this blog amongst his supporters.

Anonymous said...

I am sure I remember Annette Main writing to all Councillors including the Mayor and suggesting a compromise on the 'h' issue.
And that was way before the subject was included in the referendum.
Didnt she suggest looking at dual usuage where people could choose either spelling according to their view?
What would be wrong with that suggestion?
What sort of response did she get from Council at the time, does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

The comments about the brand of Wanganui are interesting.
What brand are we talking about here?
Lets think here about what comes into peoples minds when they think about this area?
Research shows its the river, and how is that spelled? With an 'h' !
Theres the brand, surely!With a whole lot of fascinating history behind it.
People are never going to come here in huge droves because we have a flash swimming pool, or a pretty mainstreet, they will use them while they are here, sure, but the primary reason they will visit is because we have a river full of history and stunning scenery, right alongside a National Park.
If you dont believe me check out the Tourism Board research.
The day we have a Mayor and Council who are intersted in finding out what visitors really
want is the day we will again take our rightful place as one of the must visit destinations in NZ

Anonymous said...

The mayors arrogance never ceases to amaze me, its like he gets up in the morning and thinks 'How big a group of people can i piss off today?'
Well it worked with me, I predict we will see an even greater usuage of the 'h' version from now on,after his comments about those who choose to recognise the correct spelling.
We will certainly be actively encouraging others to adopt its use and hope others do the same.

Anonymous said...

Isn't Wanganui inc trying to attract smart, cashed up people to Whanganui? However at the same time the image that is coming across around NZ is that this is a redneck's paradise that has no racial tolerance and a mayor that hates art and artists. Derek Fox pretty much dismissed our mayor as someone who even shouts at his constituents, and that should win him a prize for understatement.

Any potential investors who might have been here to suss the place out last week would have felt pretty squeamish if they saw that letter in the paper where the mayor slags off people who move here.

This really is not a good time to be spending money on promoting Whanganui as a good place for thinking people to live and do business. They should just save their money for a couple of years and then use it to try and rebuild our city's reputation.

Anonymous said...

Who cares what people in here think. You're so out of touch with wanganui (no 'h' - Maori is an oral not written language) that I wonder how you people exist. The mayor caught you beautifully when he said that so many 'Watchers' are foreign. If you don't like it here, piss off. Wanganui won't miss you.

Anonymous said...

The mayor said foreign but what he really meant was well-educated. Seriously, why do you suppose Wanganui has to import so many doctors? The poor bastards who've been educated here must be living in some sort of paranoid bigoted hell if Michael's anything to go by.

Anonymous said...

Would ytou care to repeat what the mayor said on foreigners? I've learned not to trust this blog for accuracy. The direct quotes please and the proper context.

Anonymous said...

Would you care to repeat what the mayor said on foreigners? I've learned not to trust this blog for accuracy. The direct quotes please and the proper context.

Just read the letters to the Editor.

Didn't ML have something to do NZ First immigration policy?

Anonymous said...

Like that other n(N)ational political bigot Don Brash, Laws can always say, "Of course, my wife is from Singapore (or Hong Kong, UK or wherever)".

Anonymous said...

I missed both the Chronicle and the letter - why don't you give us the letter & the context if you're going to whip up this minority mob to chastise the mayor? The fact it isn't being provided is why this blog's reputation is what it is.
The truth - don't you stand accused?

Anonymous said...

Why not ask the mayor to send you a copy of his letter and stop whinging here. I really don't this blog exists to pander to to the mayor or his many alter egos.

Anonymous said...

Backed into a corner are we? Caught out on another lie - the mayor's alleged xenophobia does not exist. Tut tut tut.

Anonymous said...

Editor John Maslin having a go today at the letter writers this week who questioned the Baker-Hogan result, while RCP and Midweek were council benefit rags.
This blog is not well attended so how about someone starting an independent paper?

Anonymous said...

Maslin is right in that PB-H won comfortably under the FPP system.
It's also stretching it to consider every non PBH vote a non-vision or non-PBH vote because there were other strong local candidates like Anderson, Campion and Simmonds.
Would she win under STV? We'll never know, because council unanimously rejected moving to another electoral system last year. So FPP it is for the foreseeable future.

Anonymous said...

To LawsWatch - silly logic over 82% of 55% voting means Wanganui wants the 'h'.
If you don't vote, you have no voice. It could have been 75% turnout or 35% turenout. The point is surely that 82% of electors don't want the 'h'. Case over.

Anonymous said...

gracious,beautifully written letter from bill milbank in latest `friends of the gallery` newsletter---and i hope councillors etc saw the arts programme last night-a salutory warning re putting art galleries and museums and especially libraries under same less knowledgeable umbreallas!
joan street

Anonymous said...

So the rates will rise this year. I wonder how that will effect the Diva's power base?

Anonymous said...

'Council was adamant that its debt to total rates ratio will remain at two times the total rates take instead of the proposed two and a half times. This proposal was flagged as a possibility at a Council meeting in December last year.'

Looks like poor Sally will not get her new library after all.

Anonymous said...

'It's also stretching it to consider every non PBH vote a non-vision or non-PBH vote because there were other strong local candidates like Anderson, Campion and Simmonds.'
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Didn't all three of these candidates make it clear that they were going 'against' Mr Laws. I certainly thought so .... there is the non-vision vote.

Anonymous said...

Going back to the results, it's useful to remember that this buy-election was sandwiched in-between three 'feel good' events in Wanganui.
Very clever of our mad mayor to put the spin machine to work. Will it be the Splash Centre next time.?

Anonymous said...

It's been a lousy week for Wanganui in the national media thanks to the mad mayor. First it was the racist H circus being talked about by Linda Clark and Derek Fox who mentioned how ML shouts at his constituents and that Wanganui might put up someone against him next election.

Then the mad mayor appears in the Sunday paper in a totally offensive rant calling distinguished and respected NZers, especially writers, wankers etc.

Then last night it was respected gallery and museum directors talking about the mayoral philistinism that has put a librarian in charge of the gallery and museum. And for good measure they showed old footage of the mad mayor in rant mode.

At least he seems to have been muzzled by the CEO because apparently his "spokeswoman" told Frontseat there would be no more mad rants on-camera because the mad mayor no longer had any interest in the gallery issue.

Looks like we should be thanking Dr Warburton for saving Wanganui from further disgrace.

Anonymous said...

Isn’t there something fishy about the water softening business, LawsWatch?

Only a week ago the referendumb result gave the go-ahead to spend $30K investigating it including costings.

But in October this appeared (Referendum Working party minutes Oct 27):

"Water softening … Julian Reweti reported review of costs completed"


Then this media release appeared on 31 January titled Soft water? Wanganui to decide - 31/01/05

"ML says a council officers report says:
* that the capital cost of such technology would be approximately $3 million with an annual operating cost of $1 million;
* that this equates to $75 a year for every urban ratepayer and thus produces an effective annual saving of $75 per household ($150 cost minus $75 investment equals $75 annual saving)"

Today we seem to not only have the answer to the referendumb question that was going to cost $30,000 to work out, but the cost of softening seems to have dropped further than vision’s support and the mayor is now saying saying softening is “do-able” for between $30-$50 per year per household.

ML seems to be spinning so fast even he can't keep up, let alone the poor suckers who think they're having some sort of say on this stuff.

Anonymous said...

Yeah this mayor is smarter than his opposition.

Anonymous said...

There was no anti-Laws candidate if you read their election blurbs. They stayed away from the mayor and his actions/antics. That's why the by-election lacked bite but people here have themselves to blame because they didn't stand. I mean where was Matt Dutton or Emma Camden??

Anonymous said...

This looks like more from the dodgy digits and budget stuff ups department at Guyton St, by way of explaining the backdown over increasing the do-able debt ratio.

Did the chief financial wizard perhaps pull the $100 million figure out of the mayor's hat in order to back up that hysterical little outburst by Micael before Xmas about the LTCCP asset accounting requirements threatening to send us into bankruptcy?

Here's what Micael is saying now:

'.... Julian Harkness, Council's chief financial officer, advised that peak debt is now forecast to fall from $100m to $65m. The original figure of $100m was based on detailed asset management plans that are required by the Local Government Act 2002. During the planning process over the last few months, Council has reduced the forecast peak debt level to a potential $65m. Peak debt may potentially increase from $54m to $65m as a direct consequence of changes to the audit process of the LTCCP."

So let's see. First it's up to $100m then it's down to $54m then it might, just might, hit $65m - and all because the mayor discovered some asset accounting requirements he didn't know about before? Can someone explain this please?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anon 8.20 Isn’t there something fishy about the water softening business, LawsWatch

Even those who believe that referendums are giving them a say must be confused by now about why the water softening question needed to be asked..
Yes, anon, your chronology of announcements is correct, so why could'nt this info be published with the referendum support data, and why is ML making press releases on the matter when it would be more believable if it came directly from Julian Reweti- that guy really does know his stuff when it comes to Wanganui's water.
This announcement by Laws just proves how poor the public information on referendum subjects is- officers had an answer already.
It was the same with the vote on abolishing the rural ward. Why did'nt they say that rural voters and urban voters would be polled separately, and that the decision would be made by the electoral commission, not by councillors. I think many urban voters voted against abolition because they felt that the rural minority was being overidden.

Anonymous said...

Apart from a few arties who watches Frontseat? Joan Street = the sound of one hand, clapping.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the anon watcher who stated that maori is an oral language as opposed to a written.

Well yes, those wonderful white land-grabbers..ah..colonials introduced the natives to wonderful joys of writing, only to be able to exploit them by telling them what they have written is wrong.

If w(h)anganui is to get the correct pronunciation, to give full respect to the local iwi and their native dialect, then perhaps the name should be written with an H but we are all encourage to pronounce it correctly (wanganui).

Those that disagree saying that maori is maori, one for all and all for one, i say, well open your eyes to cultures around the world. Even the queens own english is bastardised within ole blighty herself.

I doubt whether a welshman, a londoner, a cockney, and the queen herself would all pronounce the name of a village of the outskirts of south-manchester-on-thames the same.

I say give the written respect to the name, whanganui, and the correct pronunciation to the name, to respect the local iwi.

And anyway, any changes made are going to take a generation or two to really stick, not one quick vote.

I bet if you mentioned the town of whanganui to most people in nz, they would struggle to find comprehend that it is in fact the same place as wanganui.

Mind you this is just my feeling as a younger new zealander (note not nz-european or nz-maori) who is proud of my combined heritage, and will pass this onto my children.

Older generations (sorry for offence) dont have the 'majority' empathy for the multi-cultural society that is NZ. They were not brought up with this understanding of understanding. The vote reflected this, rather than the actual feeling of the generation that will have to live with whatever the outcome will be.

And that raises a point, why dont we ask those who will inherit the name what they prefer, rather than just those who will leave the mess behind?

Anonymous said...

So let's see. First it's up to $100m then it's down to $54m then it might, just might, hit $65m - and all because the mayor discovered some asset accounting requirements he didn't know about before? Can someone explain this please?

3:33 PM, February 21, 2006

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Easy. The last council didn't do its job properly as reported in the Chron on at least 4 or 5 seperate occasions. Their LTCCP in 2003 left out asset management plans for council assets and that the debt has only escalated 50% is the truer miracle - Harkness original sums might have been closer which means some severe pruning is on its way.
The interesting thing is that all the councillors - vision and non-vision - are united on this issue. There's been no protest from any of the non-Vs which suggests that the mayor's comments might not be too far off the mark. Around Council staff they just say two word s whenever there's a new problem discovered with the finances. Dave Foster.

Anonymous said...

Look at this lot of luminaries at
http://www.wanganuireferendum.govt.nz/WParty.asp

They are called the referendumb working party: Greg Tichbon, Jay Paterson, Sue Westwood, Ian McGowan, Randhir Dahya, Stu Hylton, Mayor Michael laws, Kevin Ross, Helen Lawrence, Don McGregor, Dot McKinnon, Murray Hughes, Noeline Moosman

They must find it hard to look in their mirrors in the mornings. Mind you, they did try to stop the H going on the referendumb, as did the subsequent committee which met (I think) in the mayor's absence. But then he worked his voodoo magic and the likes of Lindsay, McGregor and Dahya dutifully put up their hands and gave the mad mayor the racist platform he so desperately needed - and now they should be held accountable for the farce that has ensued.

Anonymous said...

and so it goes on and on and on .. steve anstis in today's paper complaining about the failure to ensure rural people knew about the ramifications of the vote on the rural ward.

Sue Pepperell who was going to make sure people were educated about the H was never seen or heard from again till the vote was over.

The splash centre "information" last time round was so pathetic it didn't mention more council borrowing or the increased operating costs.

The water softening question was farcical and the rural ward likewise.

Let's face it, this referendumb business is a complete waste of time and money, unless you're a populist mayor trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a gullible and easily divided populace.

Anonymous said...

So, Ray Stevens thinks “a chairman’s personal statements should represent those of either the organisation he/she represents and/or those opinions of the majority of those who elected them.”

How quaint to hear this in a town where there's only one opinion.

What’s Ray doing sticking around with the council, when its chairman’s (Mickey’s) opinions are spouted far and wide and he seldom bothers to wait to find out what his council thinks before letting rip. It’s ironic that Cr Stevens stayed away for the duration of the code of conduct process which might have given him an opportunity to uphold the principle that he now feels so strongly about.

Anonymous said...

About the water softening - we shouldn't forget (even if the mayor already has) that those who said yes to the question on the referendum paper were only saying:

"I vote for Council to INVESTIGATE the softening of Wanganui's water supply."

So there is no way the mayor or the council can dress that up as a mandate to proceed on anything but an investigation. And since the investigation already seems to have been done, it will be interesting to see what happens to the $30,000.

Warning Whanganui: Fancy footwork and lots of spin ahead!

Anonymous said...

Joan Street = the sound of one hand, clapping.

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Micael Laws = the sound of one mouth bullshitting (10:31PM, February 21)

Anonymous said...

That's thirty thousand dollars. Thirty thousand. All for the mad mayor's potty.

Anonymous said...

"They must find it hard to look in their mirrors in the mornings."

Indeed, following a hard days democracy we all indulge in ratepayer funded drug induced orgies. We are all a little worse for wear the following day.

Anonymous said...

Pig manure swamps German village...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4741262.stm

Another method Michael could use...
Q. Should the WDC investigate the cost of preventing the release of pig manure ?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Apart from a few arties who watches Frontseat?

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Apart from a few racists and brain-dead rednecks, who listens to Mickey on Radio Dive?

Anonymous said...

Where are the updates??
None in 8 days - cat got your tongue??

Anonymous said...

who watchers Frontseat?

You can bet more than 1.6% of the population, thats who
Did you hear that Micky?? I said more than 1.6%. Thats what you get isnt it?
Michael Laws, the sound of one hand .....