Fool me twice, shame on me
Just whose hand is up whose bum?
It's alright Watchers, you haven't stumbled upon the online edition of some odd fetish magazine, we're talking in terms of muppets.
We've already told the tale of Neil Kirton, former Associate Health Minister in the NZ First / National coalition government, whose career was eventually derailed by Machiavellian Mickey's meanderings.
Now it seems he, like his mentor, has slunk off into the far reaches of local government. Perhaps Mickey and Neil are the type of people who are convinced that someone, somewhere, desperately needs pint sized despots to tell them what to do.
Anyway, Kirton has all but disappeared from view, being either unable or unwilling to sink to Mickey's depths and cling to the sort of sad "celebrity" which comes from having people chuckle over their newspapers at your misogynist xenophobic clubland rantings.
Supposedly, when Kirton crashed and burned from the heights of Cabinet to the depths of Hawkes Bay, the association between he and his former mentor cooled somewhat. But can it be coincidence that he and Mickey are having the same fevered dreams?
While Napier City Council has unanimously decided to drop plans to cut councillor numbers from 12 to 10 following their hearing of submissions which were universally opposed to the move and coming to the realisation that cutting numbers would not reduce costs, the Hawkes Bay Regional Council is squabbling amongst themselves. Well, squabbling with one fractious member who wants to chop numbers - none other than Neil Kirton.
Council chairwoman Eileen von Dadelszen is trying to point out that whether there is nine or six councillors will not make any difference because "cutting their number will only mean fewer councillors are paid more".
"The only savings which can be guaranteed by having fewer councillors are for such things as travel reimbursement, agenda production and mail outs, meeting costs and training, and conference expenses", she says, which amount to an estimated $20,000 a year. So Hawkes Bay doesn't even save the cost of a dunny.
But Kirton, who wants to cut Hawkes Bay's democracy by a third, swears that reduction will save ratepayers $120,000.
Mrs von Dadelszen said Mr Kirton's comments on salary payments to councillors "had clouded the debate over the representation review" which we think is a polite way of saying he's fibbing worse than... well, worse than Mickey.
"The opportunities exist to reform local government in Hawke's Bay and cutting politicians is just the start," he says, no doubt clicking his heels together as he surveys a map of Poland... sorry, Napier and Hastings. If he continues following Mickey's plan, next to go will be superfluous employees such as those who actually carry out manual labour, to be replaced by the really useful lieutenants like spin fairies and lawyers.
Where could he have got these ideas from, let alone the means of selling them to a population which simply hates politicians and thinks any scheme to cut them back must, by definition, be a good thing? We just hope he remembers what happened last time he adopted a strategy authored by Mickey. After all, he hasn't got much further to fall.
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74 comments:
Is this the same Neil kirton who topped the regional council polls in HB for the past two elections?
And is regional manager of Victim support for the central NI?
If so could he please counsel these sad souls in here who keep losing and losing and losing. Losers.
An excellent letter in the Cron this morning (Sat) from Lona Sutherland.
A must read for all.
Thanks Lorna for the reserched truth.
To answer a question in the previous article comments... the stained glass is being done by Greg Hall who works for Central Glass. More importantly, has Council managed to find a sponsor for each piece? Otherwise this is going to be another rate payer expenditure for Mickey's throne room.
The mayor has had some pretty good success at finding sponsors - the Mangamahu bridge from the govt, upping the River road subsidy and the Splash fundraising is going to get that $300K easy.
There was a rumour circulating around council on Friday that he has got a six figure sum out of a corporate for the Splash Centre. If he likes a project, it happens. if he doesn't, it doesn't.
Lorna Sutherland had no facts in her letter. She asserted a conversation like Bill Milbank asserted he's had a million pledged to the Sarjeant.
You can't trust arties, ever. They're proven liars in Wangas.
Arties bad, rednecks good....G'day Mickey, nice of you to join us.....
Liars in Wanganui Mickey? So when did you give Antoinette Beck honorary citizenship?
Hey, anon at
11:00 AM, September 02, 2006 and
9:56 AM, September 03, 2006
You really need to get out more.
As for the mayor's ability to make things happen, we'll see. All experience shows that everything the mayor touches turns to shit, and the Swimming Pool extension hasn't even started yet.
The mayor taking on the Medical Council this morning - a very powerful lobby group. Who's side are we on given that ML may just be right?
"If he likes a project, it happens. if he doesn't, it doesn't."
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So you agree, then, he's obsessed with imposing his "vision" (myopia more like) on everyone else. Was his potty training somehow inadequate or something, because the symptoms you describe indicate a serious personality disorder. Poor little mayor.
"If so could he please counsel these sad souls in here who keep losing and losing and losing. Losers."
Sadly there are not any 'winners', only losers. Wanganui becomes know as the city that voted in the arrogant little man that disgraced himself. And Laws ends his public career as mayor of a small town in NZ. And I'm sure that's not really want he in -'visioned' at the end of working life. Watch out for Chas mark two!
Goodness, "anon" @ 11.00am Sept 2.
You have a remarkable knowledge of Mr Kirton's bckground to know these fascinating (but entirely irrelevant to the point) tidbits.
Friend of his are we? Now, who in Wanganui is a friend of Mr Kirton. Ummmm... gosh, the list is just so long.
Not that the Mayor ever vents his bile here. Of course not.
Sad, really, when one's self esteem is so low one measures it against electoral votes.
And we never said you weren't a good liar Mickey. It's what wins you and your friends all those elections.
Lawswatch, you dickhead. I read Kirton's Wikipedia entry.
ParaNOID!
The mayor taking on the Medical Council this morning - a very powerful lobby group. Who's side are we on given that ML may just be right?
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The full story is on "Stuff", and once again it shows that Mickey is lying (probably trying to enhance his own dogshit "celebrity"):
"Dr Campbell said allowing easier entry for doctors who had been working in a comparable health system had helped graduates from a lot of European countries.
"We've actually freed up access for a lot of people coming form overseas, but unfortunately South Africa didn't meet the criteria.
"There are things like life expectancy, infant mortality, and the nature of the illnesses that practitioners are seeing," he said.
Other public health indicators are the mortality rate for children under five years and survival rates to 65.
Dr Campbell emphasised the council was not stopping entry for South African doctors, but simply requiring them to follow a longer pathway to practising here."
So they've made it easier for overseas Doctors to get work here, but that means nothing to Mr. Lies. Perhaps he thinks that South African Doctors' politics might suit his populism better. More likely he's just desperate for attention.
If the mayor SO sure he will get back in , why then is he doing a 'poll'?
The Diva might be right on this point with the Medical Council. And he desperately needs to make the hospital work if the grand plan to get 20 thousand new immigrants into the town is going to work.
Sadly the way he does it ( media) never makes Wanganui sound a great 'friendly'' place to visit. Plus the rest of the country think he's a dick.
Friends in Dawke's Bay reckon Kirton's definitely not the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree -- probably rates alongside the Higgies, Lindsays et al who fall for Mickey's bullshit.
anoonymickey said
There was a rumour circulating around council on Friday that he has got a six figure sum out of a corporate for the Splash Centre. If he likes a project, it happens. if he doesn't, it doesn't.
9:54 AM, September 03, 2006
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Ya gotta love the way Mickey just can't keep his mouth shut and comes here whispering about "rumours around the council" when no one here gives a bugger.
But what's really an indication of the sicko mayoralty we have is that the only criteria for whether any projects succeeds whether the organisers climb far enough up the mayoral backside and whether there's enough media spin in it for Mickey.
ie IT HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH WHAT'S GOOD FOR WANGANUI.
TVNZ chief executive "starts disciplinary process" against resident foul-mouth Bill Ralston and forces him to write a letter of apology to a reporter he called, aoming other things, a c---.
So what does Dr Warbum do when Mickey uses the same term of endearment for a WDC staff member? Nothing much, apparently. Or does he write her a nice fat cheque as part of his shit shovelling duties?
I imagine he has had to. Shouldn't be hard to find out if any payout has been made, by using the Official Information Act. In fact, it would interesting to use the OIA to find out how much the restructuring of council cost as well.
Trouble is MLs is doing mostly what he was elected to do.So he will probably hose in again.
His 'unfortunate side' is the issue.
We need a Mayor with better people skills, rather than a meglomaniac.
I'm sick of fielding the 'why did you elect that awful ML ?' question from out of towners
you losers always assert the mayor has done something wrong - make up whatever it is up - and never provide any factual evidence. you're like Vinsen. Under the OIA I got the attendance records and the worst council attender is not Cr Pepperell.
Losers.
From the Chron this morning, the mayor has done more practically for glass art than anyone else. Commissioning the council stained glass project was inspired, as was getting Greg Hall to do it - outstanding Wanganui Tech boy. Hats off to ML.
Wonder if Vision will pay back the two councillors pay that both have taken without putting in the hours.?
Are there any Laws-lickers here who can come up with a single argument (just one) for reducing Councillor numbers that isn't based on bullshit?
has done more practically for glass art than anyone else
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Jumped on the bandwagon pretty late in the piece after the staff at the Sarjeant, among many others, had done years of work. What a tosser to try and claim this credit. The reason, you moron, that such good glass is even available locally is down to the "arties".
Never had a creative idea in your life, you're reduced to the status of a parasite.
The glass panel must be good if Don likes it!
Mickey said ...
Under the OIA I got the attendance records and the worst council attender is not Cr Pepperell.
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Mickey, you're realy losing the plot. Your lies and fantasies are getting bigger by the day.
Wonder if Vision will pay back the two councillors pay that both have taken without putting in the hours?
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Two? Seven, you mean. The "full-time" mayor only does 26 hours a week. Of course he spends all that time jerking off anyway.
Vision = lazy, mean-spirited and complacent.
Mickey said ...
Under the OIA I got the attendance records and the worst council attender is not Cr Pepperell.
OIA for attendance figures? Are you taking the piss? All you have to do is check the minutes in the following meeting's agenda to see who was there, right down to how many members of the public. If it's not there then the meeting secretary is not doing his/her job. OIA request? Your'e having a laugh. But anyway, do fill us in: who was the worst attending?
Under the OIA I got the attendance records and the worst council attender is not Cr Pepperell.
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May I suggest an OIA request for the weblogs for the mayor's computer? Or perhaps in the interests of openness and transparency LawsWatch's biggest fan will put these into the public domain.
Okay Mickey we'll play your sad little game. How many committee meetings all-up, apart from your little am-dram yoof set pieces, have been worth the journey for Pep the Party Pooper?
Anonymous said...
From the Chron this morning, the mayor has done more practically for glass art than anyone else. Commissioning the council stained glass project was inspired, as was getting Greg Hall to do it - outstanding Wanganui Tech boy. Hats off to ML.
8:23 AM, September 05, 2006
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Mickey may have had the idea for the stained glass panels.
It was Cr Don McGregor who organised the first window commemorating the 5th Wellington, West Coast, Taranaki Regiment.
Mickey, give credit where credit is due.
This panel was NOT your idea.
Didn't you feel embarrassed standing next to, and having to talk to a very clever arty person?
You know Mickey, one of those arty people you despise and have called all those names.
Bearhunter said...
Mickey said ...
Under the OIA I got the attendance records and the worst council attender is not Cr Pepperell.
OIA for attendance figures? Are you taking the piss? All you have to do is check the minutes in the following meeting's agenda to see who was there, right down to how many members of the public. If it's not there then the meeting secretary is not doing his/her job. OIA request? Your'e having a laugh. But anyway, do fill us in: who was the worst attending?
6:31 PM, September 05, 2006
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Opps Bearhunter you'r a little incorrect. The Committee secretary records the names of the Councilors attending a meeting but not the numbers of the public.:-)
I see the Pep has demonstrated how up-to-the minute with Wanganui matters she is. Publishing her Councillor comment really proves that all those people who say she's out of town and out of touch are all just wrong, oh yes siree.
With up-to-the minute insights into everything from generic youth issues to generic youth issues, she's really sent those critics packing.
You know, I think it's wonderful she can be so focussed, what with Mickey's manufactured health crisis, moves to further cripple democracy in Wanganui, and an entire Wellington based business and home to run.
The only other Councillor with a poor attendance record was as I understand told by the Mayor to take as much time as they needed while going through a difficult time personally.
They did just that and was criticised publicly for poor attendance, again by the mayor.
Its really great to see Greg Hall getting the work to do all the panels, I note the price has gone from $2000 to $3000 per panel, but cant help feeling a little uncomfortable about one artist getting all the work.
Were expressions of interest from local artists called for in this project?
Or maybe someone could correct me, perhaps Greg is the only artist locally who has the appropriate skills?
Not the NAMES of the members of the public, but how many were there. And it still records the names of the councillors, so quite why anyone would waste a perfectly good OIA request is beyond me. But then I haven't had Mickey's flash education.
Interesting how some here are keen to allow the mayor to take the credit for anything slightly positive which happens in Wanganui,no govt would have left a community such as Mangamahu stranded, bailey bridges were put in place after the 2004 floods with no public chest beating from public figures,and remember the temporary Mangamahu bridge comes with costs attached, a monthly lease, and maintenance costs.
The River Road subsidy was not achieved by the efforts of this Mayor,approval for funding was a result of years of lobbying by the local community, tourism groups, iwi and the previous Council, and the present staff.
I think it's great the mayor is hanging out with the 'artist' Hall, he needs to have a few more buddies like that, they even get to go biking together, that friendship for you!
Anonymous said...
I think it's great the mayor is hanging out with the 'artist' Hall, he needs to have a few more buddies like that, they even get to go biking together
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Do they do it tandem-style? And if so in what position does Mickey's other artie buddy and council beneficiary Nigelwho ride?
Looks like Lawswatch is on the money with this one....
"Pull back the Kirton and you'll find Michael Laws." -- Mike Moore suggests Michael Laws exerts undue influence on Neil Kirton (6 July 2000)
Its really great to see Greg Hall getting the work to do all the panels, I note the price has gone from $2000 to $3000 per panel, but cant help feeling a little uncomfortable about one artist getting all the work.
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The original price was touted as $1.5k per pane. And sorry to burst the "great to see an artist etc" but Greg works for central glass and it is they who have the contract.
Dot said:
"We will learn so much from this round of Council meetings and the community will grow from the endeavours of us all. Go Wanganui! Grow Wanganui!"
Aren't you embarrassed to have this empty-headed ball fo fluff as a deputy mayor?
Deputy (I am all for a simpler life.
It is not just a simple life I prefer) Dotty ventures into high finance and talks about storm costs and airport funding ....
but very conveniently neglects to mention that she and her diVisionaries have plunged this council into record debt levels. But that's not something that Mickey and the Mice like to talk about, is it?
Didn't Mickey's latest lie-fest in the chron letter today blame "management" for wanting to move meetings to two-monthly?
Funny how his deputy manages to expose the lie on the same day but in another paper... really, guys, how come you can't get your stories straight? Or is it time for come back Spin Fairy, all is forgiven.
When the Mayor chose to change the meeting schedules from a six-weekly cycle to a two-monthly cycle, I, for one, was quite happy. We may have slightly longer meetings with a two-monthly round, but rather that than more meetings. I am all for a simpler life.
Didn't the mayor say at the memorial hall meeting a couple of weeks ago that he would stand for the DHB. But when the Chronicle finally gets a reporter to ask the question all they get is spin and evasion. Oh well, that's our mayor (and our paper) for you.
Sounds like our barking mad mayor has got himself in deep doggy doo-doos with the dog club people up on the hill. After another bout of mayoral slagging that started after their rent went sky-high they're talking about how he should be muzzled.
Dogs might not be able to vote or write letters (though Bob Walker seems to manage) -- but their owners can and they won't be voting for Mad Mickey or his diVision lapdogs.
Didn't Neil Kirton and Helen have a thing going?
The Overlander saga has certainly provided an excellent showcase for Mad Mickey and his mate Barking Bob to demonstrate why a basic personality/sanity test should be a prerequisite for mayoral candidates.
Hey, where are the updates??
Come on LW this absence of the daily entertainment is starting to pall.
Apparently our mayor has been at it again on radio this morning, wading in with more of his usual offensive abuse after the death of the King of Tonga. Say bye-bye to dreams of running Manukau, Micheal.
Come on LW this absence of the daily entertainment is starting to pall.
11:22 AM, September 12, 2006
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Hey Mickey, you ARE the entertainment whether on this blog or wherever you happen to be making a daily dick of yourself. Thought you'd decided to let ole Bob have turn in the dickhead spotlight though. He's SUCH a natural it would be a pity to waste all that talent.
From what I gather about the Overlander, ML had better hope for warm weather. I'm informed that something will be announced soon in that regard...
Actually the politics would be in criticising the tongan Royal Family because the democratic movement is Manukau-based. Rather than denying the rumour, his radio comments add to them.
But hasn't he slagged off Tonga and everything to do with it since he famously got hives and lost his three-ply while getting up the white powdered noses of his fellow nobodies in Treasure Island?
No wonder he’s been leaping to “Toddy’s” defence … poor sensitive Michael won’t enjoy it one little bit when the media finally turns on him.
The daily dicks are those who impotently challenge our mayor and his fine council.
Hey, losers! Wake up - you lost.
Manukau schmanukau … our Mickey is surely destined to be Lord Mayor!
hy would Wanganui fly its flag at half mast anyway? ML was right on King Fahd and he's right on this. I note the council DID fly its flag at half mast for Manu MeteKingi and the Maori Queen.
Anonymickey said...
hy would Wanganui fly its flag at half mast anyway? ML was right on King Fahd and he's right on this.
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Hey Mickey you seem to be jumping the gun here a bit. The old trigger finger must have been getting twitchy after all those blog-free days. No one had even raised the flag (excuse the pun till now) and if you're not careful you've have Deputy Dot wetting herself again in/on river city press at the very mention of your favourite saudi despot.
But hasn't he slagged off Tonga and everything to do with it since he famously got hives and lost his three-ply while getting up the white powdered noses of his fellow nobodies in Treasure Island?
No wonder he’s been leaping to “Toddy’s” defence … poor sensitive Michael won’t enjoy it one little bit when the media finally turns on him.
Who is the idiot who e-mailed all the media today and told them about Laws on Radio Live and his comments on the Tongan kin's funeral?
It gave him national coverage during a ratings radio period. Well done :(
No reason for the flag to be half mast for the Tongan King. ML is right on this one.
Mickey you don't speak for all of us.
The flag should have been lowered for the King of Tonga. You may not like his politics BUT then I don't like yours.
Don't forget Mickey that you were not elected mayor by the majority.
Mickey you'r the pits LOOSER.
How useless is Mickey? Now, instead of Council staff simply running the flag to half-mast whenever requested to by Wellington, they have to waste this community's resources getting direction from this jumped up uber-wanker.
How would Mickey Mayor know what connection anyone overseas has with Wangas? With his head up his arse all he can see is shit.
Clearly there aren't many Tongans on the Whanganui electoral roll. Zimbabwe of the South Paciofic; brown slug, oh the diplomacy, the humanity, the utter self-regard. Mickety's got a neck like a jockey's bollocks of he thinks anyone is fooled by his hiding behind the council's "flag policy". I look forward to his reaction if a certain German-descended foreigner called Elizabeth Windsor pops her golden clogs....
The "mayor" has repeatedly demonstrated, that he has no respect for nz values, or our democracy. To have him deciding any issues regarding the flag is a desecration of everything the flag represents.
Wanganui should use the North Korean flag while this lunatic asshole is "mayor", to make him feel more at home.
Poor old Ohakune. Looks like Mickey's about to chicken out of what promised to be their biggest laugh since the last outbreak of shrivelled carrot disease.
John Tamihere, who also co-hosts a Radio Live show, said there was a time and a place for comments.
"There's a large Tongan community here and regardless of what we think about the obvious misuse of power and authority in Tonga, it's about timing and taste. Michael is suffering from flu and sleep deprivation with his new young child, it must be some sort of sickness"
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Tamihere is only partly right. Mickey is sick, all right, but it's of the pyschotic variety.
Well, anyone who was wondering what Mickey would do to get the rednecks tuning in to radio dead during the radio ratings period need wonder no more.
Last time round it was the gangs, now it's the King of Tonga. And on both occasions it's the pride and honour of the city of Wanganui that is sacrificed to feed his hunger for the celebrity dollar.
"Well, anyone who was wondering what Mickey would do to get the rednecks tuning in to radio dead during the radio ratings period need wonder no more.
Last time round it was the gangs, now it's the King of Tonga. And on both occasions it's the pride and honour of the city of Wanganui that is sacrificed to feed his hunger for the celebrity dollar.
11:05 AM, September 13, 2006 "
Don't worry anon, you are covered by precendent. Mickey said these things while NOT being mayor of Wangers, which should be clear to all those mental giants who listen to talkback. I know he did this because Dotty (speaking of mental giants) told me so, as she told everyone after the Code of Conduct fiasco. SO that's all right then, there is no way ANYONE could think that the Mayor of Wanganui was actually speaking as the Mayor of Wanganui...
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Who is the idiot who e-mailed all the media today and told them about Laws on Radio Live and his comments on the Tongan kin's funeral?
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Aw gee, that's a hard one. Let me guess.... could it possibly be Mickey?
Whassamatter with you people?
The Tongan royal family have been ripping off the Tongan people for generations and its your MAYOR that's the problem? Time to get some perspective, people - which your mayor seems to have.
Anonymous said...
Whassamatter with you people?
The Tongan royal family have been ripping off the Tongan people for generations and its your MAYOR that's the problem? Time to get some perspective, people - which your mayor seems to have.
2:55 PM, September 13, 2006
Well, it's not so much the Tongan monarch who the flag is honouring, it's more a gesture of solidarity with the Tongan people who, despite the king's love of a good rort, seemed to like him and have been in mourning. The Tongan people who make up a sizeable proportion of our population. And ML does not have perspective, he just wants to be a shock-jock and try to boost his incredibly low ratings.
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