Sunday, April 29, 2007

Now for the hypocrisy two-step


Just as the pundits in the LawsWatch Cave were falling about laughing at the breathtaking failure of the Mayor of Wanganui to win enough txt votes to survive beyond the second round of Dancing With the Stars, an alert watcher stumbled across michaelandlauren.co.nz.

Yes, Watchers, not content with desperately hijacking the Wanganui District Council website, using week after week of his sordid Sunday columns, and prostituting his kids in the women’s rags to buy votes, Michael got his web-pal Nigel Morris to knock together a web site devoted to the ultimately futile txt vote chase.

But even seasoned Watchers who no longer pause over their Sunday lattes to draw breath over Mickey’s endless litany of lies and hypocrisy choked on their Eggs Benedict this morning when they came across this whopper in today’s Herald on Sunday:

… Laws was voted off last week after recording the lowest score in the show's history. Laws said he had decided not to make use of his high profile as a mayor and radio host to campaign for votes. "I'm not going to ask for people to vote for me if I can't dance. I didn't lobby at all, didn't make any trips or say vote for me," said Laws.

And as a commenter pointed out on LawsWatch yesterday, Mickey got off to a galloping start in the weekend porkies and hypocrisy race when he went ballistic for the Chron(ic)’s benefit over an Amnesty International request for support for a petition protesting China’s human rights record.

The Chronic breathlessly reports him opining that “Human rights in China is foreign policy and not the domain of local government".

On and on he goes:

"I think it stupid local government get involved in international relations and it’s an attempt to embarrass government. I will not allow the Wanganui District Council to be used as lobby fodder by an interest group which has a grievance against the government’s foreign policy."

Now isn’t that rich coming from the man who has spent most of the past few years using his mayoralty “celebrity” trying to embarrass the government, culminating in his meltdown over its foreign policy on Tonga in a delightful little November 22 2006 “mayoral e-column” called WE’RE IN TONGA… WHY?

It’s been a rotten week for the man who would be mayor and then, just when he thought it couldn’t get any worse, the Radio Awards judges joined the Dancing judges and voted him biggest talkback loser. Right at the moment he was being re-humiliated with the replay of his freakshow failure on DTWS, he was watching Marcus Lush get covered in glory at the radio awards as the old lefty from Bluff took the best talk or current affairs host award from shortlisted Leighton Smith and Paul Holmes.

And just to underscore his abject failure in the radio stakes, he didn’t even make any of the many shortlists, though just about everyone else who managed to sit in front of a microphone did.


116 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mickey...it comes to no surprise that you're a sorry bastard for not only using the WDC website to milk DWTS votes, but, disguising that disgusting michaelandlauren.co.nz website under a company domain (the .co.nz)...

Sort of like a cyber DWTS "Antoinette Beck".

Mickey, you won't beat George W. Bush's calibre...But, you're on the same level.

And Lauren de Boeck, an accomplice to the crime. Mickey's partner in crime. Should be ran out and 86th'd out of Wanganui.

But, no matter. Both the losers were "shot down", "Crashed and Burned" off DWTS. Mickey&Lauren's charade was short lived.

Anonymous said...

Good post LW. Let me see, the Diva must be extremely uncomfortable at the moment knowing that even with his radio, newspaper, web-site and the Wanganui population, he couldn't get an extra week on the show. If anything does, this shows how unpopular this populist really is.

Anonymous said...

This bears repeating for this post:
Now Mickey Flip Flops in the Wanganui Chronicle:

Laws rejects Amnesty's China petition

28.04.2007

HUMAN rights in China is foreign policy and not the domain of local government.

Mayor Michael Laws said he will not be blackmailed into signing Amnesty International’s “Human Rights: Not Made in China” petition against human rights abuses which they will bring to Wanganui on Monday.

“They are a bunch of idiots, and I don’t respond to idiots.”

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What's all this Flip Flopping Mickey? You just can't pick and chose one Human Right issue from another for your own motives.

Anonymous said...

Well, at least there might be more visitors to the site now it has a link to Lawswatch, we can all have a good laugh. Thanks Mad Mickey and Nigel.

Anonymous said...

What moronic posts from the chief moron at LawsWatch.
Laws said his council should NOT get involved in international affairs with his refusal to half-mast the tongan flag when their king died.
With Amnesty International he is being totally consistent: local government has no role in foreign affairs!
And on DWTS: did he campaign? Name one event, meeting, trip he undertook to lobby for votes. He didn't and he was even telling radio stations like The Edge NOT to vote for him because he couldn't dance.

Anonymous said...

Tim Shadbolt is quoted in the HOS saying he spent more time lobbying than practising dancing.
Michael Laws did not. Good on him for trying and for raising wanganui's profile and charity funds. when did any of you losers ever do anything similar??

Anonymous said...

Ngaire said

11 April 2007 11:05
Excellent stuff Michael! You did well and looked great.
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Ngaire, I know it's wrong to mock the afflicted, but do you prefer oil or water based lubricant?

Anonymous said...

Welcome back, Mickey @ 4.12 & 4.17 ... so how did it feel seeing Marcus take the gold?

Anonymous said...

Ngaire, I know it's wrong to mock the afflicted, but do you prefer oil or water based lubricant?

5:24 PM, April 29, 2007
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LW you tell me - you're the ones so far up your own bums you don't know whats going on in the real world. First you call me Mickey and now you call me Ngaire. Make up your mind.

Anonymous said...

So your bosses at Canwest aren't going to give you your day to grandstand in court, Mickey. Diddums!

Laws urges station to deny contempt charges
5:00AM Sunday April 29, 2007
By Jonathan Marshall

Controversial talkback host Michael Laws wants his bosses at Radio Live to plead not guilty to contempt of court charges.

The station's owner, media giant Canwest, has pleaded guilty to broadcasting details that could have led to the identification of sex offender Graham Capill's victims. It follows comments made on air by Radio Live drive-time host James Coleman.

Both Laws and Coleman face charges for remarks made about the Capill case.

At the Auckland District Court on Friday, the company admitted one charge of breaching the Criminal Justice Act, in relation to the Coleman comments.

Capill - the former leader of the Christian Heritage Party - is serving a nine-year jail term for rape, sexual violation and indecent assault on girls aged between five and 11. The law provides for the automatic suppression for any victim of a sexual offence.

But Coleman, who was jointly charged with his employer, intends to defend the allegation.

Laws said the police prosecution over his comments was "politically motivated".

Anonymous said...

Part 1....


Anonymous said...
What moronic posts from the chief moron at LawsWatch.
Laws said his council should NOT get involved in international affairs with his refusal to half-mast the tongan flag when their king died.
With Amnesty International he is being totally consistent: local government has no role in foreign affairs!
And on DWTS: did he campaign? Name one event, meeting, trip he undertook to lobby for votes. He didn't and he was even telling radio stations like The Edge NOT to vote for him because he couldn't dance.

4:12 PM, April 29, 2007
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Finally, a gutless loser Laws supporter species that sticks their neck out to get chopped off...Oh what fun.

Let's dissect your nonsense, shall we?

(1) What moronic posts from the chief moron at LawsWatch.

*When I get done with you...You'll be the moron..NOT Laws Watch.

(2) Laws said his council should NOT get involved in international affairs with his refusal to half-mast the tongan flag when their king died.

* Well, the Mayor earning the Cheeky Darkie award explains it all. Would you like the link to watch it? So Mickey one day uses Amnesty International's Tonga 2004 report to call not lower the flag at half-mast, when Parliament did.
Mickey states Amnesty International
's facts on Tonga's Human Rights issue were right.

THEN

Mickey Flip Flops and calls Amnesty International idiots on China's Human Rights issues.

Amnesty International's reports and actions on Tonga and China's Human Rights issues ARE consistant. Mickey Flip Flops. And it was Mickey that embarrassed New Zealand with his actions. BoRA 1990 protected or not.

Anonymous said...

Part 2....


Anonymous said...
What moronic posts from the chief moron at LawsWatch.
Laws said his council should NOT get involved in international affairs with his refusal to half-mast the tongan flag when their king died.
With Amnesty International he is being totally consistent: local government has no role in foreign affairs!
And on DWTS: did he campaign? Name one event, meeting, trip he undertook to lobby for votes. He didn't and he was even telling radio stations like The Edge NOT to vote for him because he couldn't dance.

4:12 PM, April 29, 2007
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Finally, a gutless loser Laws supporter species that sticks their neck out to get chopped off...Oh what fun.

Let's dissect your nonsense, shall we?

(3)And on DWTS: did he campaign? Name one event, meeting, trip he undertook to lobby for votes.

* Well, who fricken authorised the display of texting votes and support for Michael and Lauren on the WDC website???

I know...the Mayor authorises it.

* Who gave the OK (legal permission) for the michaelandlauren.co.nz website to be on the web to text votes and support for Michael and Lauren?

I know....Michael Laws

As it stands now, we haven't heard any news of Michael Laws taking anyone to court for allowing these websites to be displayed on the Internet without his and/or Lauren permission...Now have we? So far, I'm making a total arse out of you..

Let's continue...Let me bring you up to the 21th Century...

Advertising is defined as such:

Advertising 2 a : to make publicly and generally known advertising their readiness to make concessions b : to announce publicly especially by a printed notice or a broadcast c : to call public attention to especially by emphasizing desirable qualities so as to arouse a desire to buy or patronize : PROMOTE


Mickey was involved in "Webvertising"...the cyber (internet) equivalent of "Advertising". Webvertising is the NEW ADVERTISING TREND.

Now, how about if you go slither back in that hole you came out of.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Tim Shadbolt is quoted in the HOS saying he spent more time lobbying than practising dancing.
Michael Laws did not. Good on him for trying and for raising wanganui's profile and charity funds. when did any of you losers ever do anything similar??

4:17 PM, April 29, 2007
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OK...Loser Laws Supporter Species..

Oh, and Mickey didn't, eh.

Mickey thought that bribing a DWTS judge by inviting Judge Craig to Wanganui was cheaper.

It was Mickey's obvious "body language" on DWTS that said it all when Mickey pointed at his eyes with his fingers (to bad he didn't poke both eyes in) then pointed a Judge Craig with his fingers..Not once but twice. That's interpreted as..."I'm watching you, do me right"

I have to ask you loser Laws species...are you blind in one eye and can't see out the other?

Who paid for Judge Craig's visit to Wanganui and accomodations?

It's probably listed under the "Miscellaneous" section of the city's expenses.

And Mickey even admitted that before the fool broke his toe that it was weeks that he and Lauren were not rehearsing.

I always contribute to the Cancer Society, Salvation Army, RSA, Breast Cancer, shall I keep going?

AND

Laws Watch exposes to Wanganui thay Mickey is the corrupt mayor that he is...I call that a service to the city.

And let's continue with Mickey's "enhancing" the profile of Wanganui by his accomplisments as:


*Being eleiminated off DWTS (National T.V.).

*The Cheeky Darkie Award (National T.V.).

*New Zealand Herald's "The worst insult of 2006" (National Newspaper)

*New Zealand Herald's "Where it all went wrong" feature. (National Newspaper)


Has Mayor Tim honoured Invercagill in this way?

Anonymous said...

Let's shorten it....

Mickey states Amnesty International 's facts on Tonga's Human Rights issue were right.

Then


Mayor Michael Laws said he will not be blackmailed into signing Amnesty International’s “Human Rights: Not Made in China” petition against human rights abuses which they will bring to Wanganui on Monday.

“They are a bunch of idiots, and I don’t respond to idiots.”

That's Flip Flopping...

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What's all this Flip Flopping Mickey? You just can't pick and chose one Human Right issue from another for your own motives.

1:50 PM, April 29, 2007

Amnesty International’s “Human Rights" issues are consistent not Mickey's

The only thing about Mickey's foreign policy that is consistent is Mickey being a racist. period.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You know, it's amazing how Mickey can author a book about his politician cohorts being corrupt politicians, when, the little imp is corrupt incarnate.

Mickey certainly gives new meaning to the word "hypocrite".

Here's an idea...When Mickey Mouth hosts on RadioLive from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon, nobody call in for a comment. No matter how controversal.

That should drop his ratings and the Canadians probably won't re-new his contract the next time around.

Then, the air waves will be rid of Mickey once and for all.

Once Mickey's financial imbilical is cut, we'll get to watch the little worm squirm.

6:07 PM, April 28, 2007

Anonymous said...

First you call me Mickey and now you call me Ngaire. Make up your mind.

6:22 PM, April 29, 2007

*****

Look, it's really quite simple. You tell us who are ARE rather than who you claim NOT to be. Just your name and address, that can be verified in the electoral roll, will be fine.

Mickey will no doubt show his gratitude with flowers and chocolates and we will all know that there's someone out there who's not on Mickey's payroll, like the diVisioners, Ngaire, Nigelwho and his commonlaw wife who manages to find something good to say about him. It will help cheer him up after all the public humiliation he's been enduring.

(Just don't try using the nom-de-plume Antoinette Beck though because you've already done that, Mickey, and it hasn't exactly earned you a lot of respect, has it?)

Anonymous said...

First you call me Mickey and now you call me Ngaire
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Do you need this spelled out for you, moron? Do you call yourself Ngaire when you post on MichaelandLauren.co.nz?

Oh and I'm not Lawswatch. Just another Wanganuian who thinks Mickey is a worthless hack.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
So your bosses at Canwest aren't going to give you your day to grandstand in court, Mickey. Diddums!

Laws urges station to deny contempt charges
5:00AM Sunday April 29, 2007
By Jonathan Marshall

Controversial talkback host Michael Laws wants his bosses at Radio Live to plead not guilty to contempt of court charges.

The station's owner, media giant Canwest, has pleaded guilty to broadcasting details that could have led to the identification of sex offender Graham Capill's victims. It follows comments made on air by Radio Live drive-time host James Coleman.

Both Laws and Coleman face charges for remarks made about the Capill case.

6:27 PM, April 29, 2007

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Well, this is interesting...

Mickey if are competent enough to "read between the lines"...You'll notice just how **dispensible** you are to CanWest. And like all businesses, when a company feels that one of it's employees is a liability...That employee is history.

Mickey...CanWest can and will drop you like a hot potatoe. And all the signs are pointing to it.

Have fun in the WINZ queue

Anonymous said...

Look, it's really quite simple. You tell us who are ARE rather than who you claim NOT to be. Just your name and address, that can be verified in the electoral roll, will be fine.
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You go first 'Anon' LW. Because I'd really like to meet you, face to face, you evilminded lying little turd blogger.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I suppose ML will be crying into his cups that Radio Live renewed his contract earlier this year and gave him a 5 year contract.

When will you anonymous losers in here admit it that he's the success and you are the failures?

Anonymous said...

Golly, even a website by The Edge radio guys devoted to getting votes for Mickey because he's the worst, most awful fool on DTWS didn't help him.

http://www.votefortheworst.co.nz/

Check out the inbox section though. Looks like Ngaire was banned from going there but there are some gems like this:

He is NNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAFF!
Darling, he looks like he moonlights on the Drag show at Family.. and He has to be the worlds greatest Queen...My dear, that tattooed Mascara.Vote him off!

and this:

Michael sucks! He looks so damn creepy! His revolting hand movements up and down his wrinkly old body and his putrid facial expressions that makes parents send their children to bed! He looks like Dracula with his terrible eye makeup and what makes it worse is the light shining on top of his head and making it look like he has big black bags underneath his eyes!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Tim Shadbolt is quoted in the HOS saying he spent more time lobbying than practising dancing.
Michael Laws did not. Good on him for trying and for raising wanganui's profile and charity funds. when did any of you losers ever do anything similar??

4:17 PM, April 29, 2007

++++

Actually, Mickey, I think the whole point of the LawsWatch post was that you CAN'T get away with any more of your lies (here on this blog, anyway), so bugger off and peddle them elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

"Anon" said:

...LW. Because I'd really like to meet you, face to face...
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So would I. I'd shake Lawswatch's hand, or hands, and congratulate them on a job well done. If you were there too, "anon" I could then amuse myself ridiculing and humiliating you, you dupe.

But I suspect you're such a pussy you wouldn't even stand up to my letterbox.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Anon" said:

...LW. Because I'd really like to meet you, face to face...
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So would I. I'd shake Lawswatch's hand, or hands, and congratulate them on a job well done. If you were there too, "anon" I could then amuse myself ridiculing and humiliating you, you dupe.

But I suspect you're such a pussy you wouldn't even stand up to my letterbox.

12:32 PM, April 30, 2007

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Everyone knows that none you would confront the mayor in person because you are cowards.

He is ten times the person that any of you losers will ever be.

Anonymous said...

Surely it's obvious that Mickey pounced on the China issue because it popped onto the horizon at the end of a very bad week for him when he would have done just about anything to get himself back in the headlines for another ride. It's therefore pretty pointless analysing what he said, why he said it, noting he's a hypocrite and a liar etc ... because once again he just opened his big mouth, caught a few flies, and got his required amount of space in the Chronicle and elsewhere.

ie to pharaphase Descartes:

He talks, therefore he is!

Anonymous said...

Good on the mayor for being consistent in keeping wanganui's nose out of other country's affairs. He refused to lower the flag to some dead king somewhere and to king Fahd too and now refuses to get into Amnesty's hype over China.

And spot the BS - Amnesty saying Wanganui will have sister city relationship with China.

Crap.

Anonymous said...

Congradtulations Wanganui District Cr Ray Stevens for signing the Amnesty International’s “Human Rights: Not Made in China” petition against human rights abuses.

Take note Mickey....That's what having balls is all about. And, if you had any balls Mickey, you'd probably talk with a deeper voice too.

Anonymous said...

Let me get this right: the mayor shuld commit the WDC to foreign policy without it being debated around the council table and WDC policy decided?

Is he had, you wankers would have criticised him for acting unilaterally and without council mandate.

As for DWTS - he came out of it as a good humoured guy with the guts to dance on a broken foot for Wangas and the Cancer Society.
Would any of you ever be given the opportunity to do the samE? Of course not but that doesn't stop you being envious and jealous of the guy.

Anonymous said...

Some half-wit dribbled:

none you would confront the mayor...
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Who said anything about confronting your lying mayor? Most of the issues people have with the useless creep is the way he behaves when anyone questions him period, let alone confronting him. it's as a result of confronting him that they decide he's a lowlife. And your point is, dupe?

Anonymous said...

Do you think Cr Westwood will be doing her maths again before criticising the referendum result? Only 1 in 5 voted for her in 2004. Is that maths correct?

Anonymous said...

Lauren de Boeck should be run out of town?

Are you people as rabid and stupid as you write? Or is the mad Yank trolling here again?

Anonymous said...

The problem with Laws Watch is the lack of intellectual and robust debate in support of Laws.

Anonymous said...

As the ship slowly slides into oblivion, it's nice to see the man's still got some supporters, fools maybe, but loyal fools.

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows that none you would confront the mayor in person because you are cowards.

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Well thats rubbish annon, how do you know that none off us have confronted the mayor?.

Just to keep you up to date, I have personally confronted the Mayor and guess what, the info he gave me was only half of the truth.

It's a waste of time trying to talk to him cos what mickey says is gospel in his eyes, and he isn't interested in what others have to say.

Anonymous said...

Speaking of maths, how's this: today's lead story in the Chronicle contained 56 words attributed to Cr Sue Westwood. She correctly pointed out that the referendum results reflected only the percentage of the population that voted, not the population as a whole.

The article then contained a further 140 words attributed to Michael Laws - defending the referendum and attacking Sue Westwood's credibility.

This statistic alone makes the article horrifically unbalanced and unfair. Not to mention poorly structured and largely pointless. The reporter? John Maslin.

Anonymous said...

More maths to be alarmed about!

In the Draft Annual Plan, the maths explaining the soft water levy is wrong. It should read that the net saving per household is between $151 - $207. Not $157 - $207. It's basic maths: 230 - 79 = 151.

If the council can't even get simple maths right, how are we expected to believe that they can manage a multimillion dollar project such as Heart of Wanganui?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Good on the mayor for being consistent in keeping wanganui's nose out of other country's affairs. He refused to lower the flag to some dead king somewhere and to king Fahd too and now refuses to get into Amnesty's hype over China.

And spot the BS - Amnesty saying Wanganui will have sister city relationship with China.

Crap.

7:34 AM, May 01, 2007
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Maybe you didn't read today's Wanganui Chronicle...

Wanganui District Cr Ray Stevens raised Wanganui's profile by signing Amnesty International’s “Human Rights: Not Made in China” petition against human rights abuses.

As did:

Mayors David Ogden (Hutt City), Tim Shadbolt (Invercargill CC), Garry Daniell (deputy-Mayor Masterton DC), Heather Tanquay (Palmerston North DC) and Kevin Heays (Kaikoura DC) have signed the petition to date.

What do you have to say about that, huh?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lauren de Boeck should be run out of town?

Are you people as rabid and stupid as you write? Or is the mad Yank trolling here again?

2:26 PM, May 01, 2007

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Nope, nobody here but us Kiwi's, Mickey. Nobody here is rabid or stupid as you, Mickey....Why don't you and your partner in crime (Lauren) take a hike.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Let me get this right: the mayor shuld commit the WDC to foreign policy without it being debated around the council table and WDC policy decided?

Is he had, you wankers would have criticised him for acting unilaterally and without council mandate.

As for DWTS - he came out of it as a good humoured guy with the guts to dance on a broken foot for Wangas and the Cancer Society.
Would any of you ever be given the opportunity to do the samE?

Of course not but that doesn't stop you being envious and jealous of the guy.

1:47 PM, May 01, 2007

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I'm going to have a good time with this Loser Laws Supporter species.

Lets...dissect your lame brain comment...shall we?

(1) Let me get this right: the mayor shuld commit the WDC to foreign policy without it being debated around the council table and WDC policy decided?

Is he had, you wankers would have criticised him for acting unilaterally and without council mandate.

* Hey Einstein....It's a fricken petition

Also: Mayors David Ogden (Hutt City), Tim Shadbolt (Invercargill CC), Garry Daniell (deputy-Mayor Masterton DC), Heather Tanquay (Palmerston North DC) and Kevin Heays (Kaikoura DC) have signed the petition to date.

AND

Wanganui District Cr Ray Stevens said if Wanganui wished to have freedom of speech, then signing Amnesty International's Lion Declaration petition did just that. Mr Stevens signed as an individual.

So what's your problem? Nitwit.


(2) As for DWTS - he came out of it as a good humoured guy with the guts to dance on a broken foot for Wangas and the Cancer Society.
Would any of you ever be given the opportunity to do the samE?

* MICKEY GOT ELIMINATED....Earth to loser laws supporter....Mayor Tim did better than Mickey and so did Rodney Hide.

Since DWTS is not a real life or death situation show...Any normal person would heed doctor's orders..Wouldn't you?

Laws Watch IS doing a service for Wanganui by exposing Mickey as a corrupt mayor who is an embarrassment to Wanganui.

So you might a well take your place in Mickey's freak show.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lauren de Boeck should be run out of town?

Are you people as rabid and stupid as you write? Or is the mad Yank trolling here again?

2:26 PM, May 01, 2007

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Both you DWTS losers crashed and burned..Mickey.

Anonymous said...

Well it's good to hear that the Amnesty International people feel the REAL people of Wanganui were civil and welcoming, with many apologising for their mad mayor and saying how ashamed they were of their city's good name being tarnished once again by the little self-publicist.

Anonymous said...

Hey Mickey, how did Gypsy get off the leash? Loved her letter in the Chron today, but she doesn't sound very enamoured of your bod, does she?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The problem with Laws Watch is the lack of intellectual and robust debate in support of Laws.

4:13 PM, May 01, 2007

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We have intellectual and robust debate ***against*** Laws.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
More maths to be alarmed about!

In the Draft Annual Plan, the maths explaining the soft water levy is wrong. It should read that the net saving per household is between $151 - $207. Not $157 - $207. It's basic maths: 230 - 79 = 151.

If the council can't even get simple maths right, how are we expected to believe that they can manage a multimillion dollar project such as Heart of Wanganui?

4:56 PM, May 01, 2007

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Very Good Anon,

In reference to the Heart of Wanganui project....Here's some food for thought for you.

If you observe anyone of the HoW options 2-7, you'll notice the words "Total project cost".

Well, here's the problem with those words (including Option 1 and the underground car park)

In a major building project, The **total cost** of any project --cannot-- be accurately determined until 80% of the project has been ***Completed***

All of the past Mickey building projects always were overbudgeted.

And the city debt will take up to 50 years to pay off?

Hell, I'd rather select the HoW Status Quo....It'll be cheaper.


Just remember the underground car park will be **Added on** no matter what HoW project option one selects.

I'd go for the other options other than the status quo when, petrol goes back down to 1.08/litre, when the government stops fleecing the working people and Parliament stops giving themselves pay rises every year. I can go on forever.

Anonymous said...

Hey Mickey...

Are you going to watch DWTS with Wanganui?

Anonymous said...

Thanks to the anonymii @ 4.36, 4.56 and 5.36 for doing some basic but enlightening maths.

The sad and inevitable conclusion from the way the Chron treated Cr Westwood is that Maslin is indeed nothing more than Mickey's Mouthpiece.

Surely by now the truth is beginning to dawn on Andy Jarden that giving him the flick from the editor's chair was no better than the catholic church shunting pedophile priests to another parish.

Just like serial predator Mickey moving from Hawke's Bay to Wanganui and carrying on his seduction of stupid journos like Mas, really.

Anonymous said...

Nice to see Mr Holmes still going strong on DWTS ... a bit of humility and practice - and no doubt listening and learning -- goes a long way.

BTW: Has anybody thought that if Mickey genuinely believed (as he claimed) that he was too useless at dancing to ever succeed AND that he had the best interests of the Cancer Society at heart, then he would never have allowed his name to go forward on the grounds that just about anyone else would have attracted more dollars via txt voting than he did.

But the double fallacy in that argument is that a. he is capable of telling the truth and b. that he had anyone's interests but his own at heart.

Anonymous said...

But the double fallacy in that argument is that a. he is capable of telling the truth and b. that he had anyone's interests but his own at heart.

10:08 PM, May 01, 2007

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I can sum all that up about Mickey in two words...."Stupidity" and "Arrogance"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Surely it's obvious that Mickey pounced on the China issue because it popped onto the horizon at the end of a very bad week for him when he would have done just about anything to get himself back in the headlines for another ride. It's therefore pretty pointless analysing what he said, why he said it, noting he's a hypocrite and a liar etc ... because once again he just opened his big mouth, caught a few flies, and got his required amount of space in the Chronicle and elsewhere.

ie to pharaphase Descartes:

He talks, therefore he is!

6:37 AM, May 01, 2007
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Yeah, similar to the Coulombine and Virginia Tech shooters...to get the attention for the wrong reasons. Little people in need of displaying power and control.

Anonymous said...

I haven't gone anywhere Anon. I pop into this blog from time to time but the bullshit, hate and pure crap is incredible and for the most part not worth responding to. Time to stop visiting for me. You sad, sad, people.

Anonymous said...

The inspiration for the Mickey-Chester fear-mongering and headline grabbing little exercise with the gang bill could well have been this quote:

“But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

- Herman Goering (at the Nuremberg Trials)

Anonymous said...

I have personally confronted the Mayor and guess what, the info he gave me was only half of the truth
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You're lucky. I've "confronted" (I was more polite than that) the "mayor" twice. He lied to my face both times. Corrupt scum like Michael Laws belong on meathooks.

Anonymous said...

Gypsy said...
I haven't gone anywhere Anon. I pop into this blog from time to time but the bullshit, hate and pure crap is incredible and for the most part not worth responding to. Time to stop visiting for me. You sad, sad, people.

6:31 AM, May 02, 2007
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Would you like to be more specific on who is providing the" bullshit, hate and pure crap (that) is incredible"?

You can dispense with **your** self-righteous bullshit.

Anonymous said...

!4% Michael is extremely entertaining. He should stay.

16% A great effort from a great guy.

71% Shocking performance, let the real competition begin.

Last weeks poll, from DWTS web-site.

What more needs to be said?

Anonymous said...

Some sad individual wrote the following ...

Anonymous said...
I have personally confronted the Mayor and guess what, the info he gave me was only half of the truth
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You're lucky. I've "confronted" (I was more polite than that) the "mayor" twice. He lied to my face both times. Corrupt scum like Michael Laws belong on meathooks.

12:17 PM, May 02, 2007

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I would wager none of the above is true because if it was, the obvious hatred of the poster would have seen him/her complain publicly.

Why are you also censoring postings from pro-mayor supporters,
LawsWatch. Are you running scared that the truth will out you as the prime liar??

Anonymous said...

And no i'm not the mayor or his minion (should that read plural given all the paranoia in here).
when he stands again and gets re-elected when you then accept Wanganui thinks he's great or will yopu turn on all wanganui too?

Anonymous said...

How many days is it to the next election? Time for a positive change at the top.

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, Michael Laws' elimination came despite the creation of a web-site devoted to keeping him on.
Breakfast DJ Jay-Jay Feeney and her co-presenters on The Edge Morning Madhouse implored people to support the Wanganui mayor on the Vote for the Worst site.
"He just made us laugh so hard on the first episode that we thought he had to stay in," Feeney said.
"We were concerned there was no way anyone would vote for him - unless we tried to encourage them.
"We had 6000 people visit the web-site in nine days - and Michael even emailed me to say it was brilliant.
"It's sad he's gone."
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That many people visited and he still couldn't get enough support! Mr Unpopular!

Laws Watch said...

To the "pro-Mayor Supporter" who complained @ 4.50 about some pro-Laws comments being binned by the moderators:
Commenters who post abuse about other blog participants based on speculative and uninformed assumptions about their race or nationality should not be surprised when such comments are rejected, whatever "side" they claim to represent.
Likewise commenters who merely repeat themselves ad nauseum, and those who consistently fail to add anything to the debate, often fail to make the grade with the moderators. You know who you are, from both sides of the debate.

On the other hand, we've seen a couple of good examples recently of commenters doing the maths and coming up with some new insights into the "numbers" on a couple of issues; likewise those who go off and do a bit of research, make the links to previous pronouncements, then come back to share them with other Watchers. Strangely, it's been a long time between drinks for anyone awaiting with bated breath (to mix a metaphor or two) since anyone who might be broadly described as a "pro-Mayor Supporter" actually produced anything (other than entertaining fantasies about the appeal of the mayoral body) to support their claims beyond trotting out the same old abuse of other blog visitors.

So lift your game, commenters from all sides, and avoid the bin!

Anonymous said...

I would wager none of the above is true because if it was, the obvious hatred of the poster would have seen him/her complain publicly.

Why are you also censoring postings from pro-mayor supporters,
LawsWatch. Are you running scared that the truth will out you as the prime liar??

4:50 PM, May 02, 2007
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OK...Let's have some fun with this loser Laws supporter species...Shall we?

(1) I would wager none of the above is true because if it was, the obvious hatred of the poster would have seen him/her complain publicly.

*"I would wager none of the above is true" Well, **prove they are not** And, whatever the complaint was, it probably wasn't worth making public.

So let's put you under the burden of proof to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

(2) Why are you also censoring postings from pro-mayor supporters,
LawsWatch. Are you running scared that the truth will out you as the prime liar??

* Since you're the one bitching, you must be the one who is getting censored. Laws Watch has censored some of my comments and I'm on Laws Watch's side. But only I knew I was being censored.

Even in a Court of Law...If an attorney's statement is called to objection by the opposing attorney, and, the objection is sustained by the judge...Re-phrasing the statement oftens helps.

Mickey getting eliminated off DWTS is not a lie. Or are you in denial as much as Mickey is about a good many things?

Anonymous said...

Gypsy said...

I haven't gone anywhere Anon. I pop into this blog from time to time but the bullshit, hate and pure crap is incredible and for the most part not worth responding to. Time to stop visiting for me. You sad, sad, people.

6:31 AM, May 02, 2007

Bye bye Gypsy. You'll be missed. But why not try a new nom-de-guerre, like Edith, maybe, or Ngaire to share your remarkable mirror delusions about your super hero?

As for anony-I'm not-Mickey's Minion, thanks for this little gem.

"... when he stands again and gets re-elected". It's great to have Mickey Minions like you seemingly contradicting other Mickey Minions like Mickey.

Anonymous said...

the obvious hatred of the poster would have seen him/her complain publicly
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and let's face it, there've been no public complaints about the worthless piece of shit, have there?

Oh, except for the nun from Jerusalem on the radio. And the letters to the paper every day. And the Councillors who disagree with his use of lies at every Council meeting. And people like me who think he's an avatar of dogshit.

No public complaints at all.

Anonymous said...

Breakfast DJ Jay-Jay Feeney and her co-presenters on The Edge Morning Madhouse implored people to support the Wanganui mayor on the Vote for the Worst site.

5:53 PM, May 02, 2007
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"The Edge"....Why am I not surprised. CanWest (The Canadians) owns The Edge just like CanWest owns RadioLive.

CanWest (The Canadians) also own....MoreFM, The Rock, The Breeze, C4, Campbell Live, (all of TV3 for that matter), The RadioWorks (for the whole). The list goes on.

Anonymous said...

I know this is "old news" but worth noting.

An excerpt from Wednesday's (02/05/2007) New Zealand Herald:

"....Last week, Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws was voted off after scoring an embarrassing nine points...."

Anonymous said...

You're a hypocrite and a liar Laws watch.

You let people anonymously post slander on this website about the mayor and his family.

You post anonymously yourself because you are a coward.

You secretly loathe Wanganui because it supports the mayor on many of his issues.

will you post this??

Anonymous said...

When will any of you moaners work out that ML did not take DWTS seriously but still danced with a broken toe. He looked to be having a great time and he promoted Wanganui.

When was the last time any poster here got that kind of profile for our city?

It is obvious that most of you have a chip on your shoulder. He is democratically elected, has moved Wanganui forward, is a national celebrity and getting bigger and obviously has a great family.

Are you jealous or you just don't like successful people?

Anonymous said...

It's been 97 days since we challenged Mickey to release his personal radio ratings!


And 106 days since we challenged the WDC to seek a credit rating from Standard & Poors!

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I read this every day and asked one of the mayor's staff about this a couple of weeks ago. This person said they had never received any correspondence from anyone at Laws Watch ever.

I believe them.

So how did you "challenge" them and posting on this blog is not a challenge.

Anonymous said...

Damn, my lunch hour is too short to begin deconstructing Dotty's latest "brain" dump:

"Cr Philippa Baker-Hogan is working on the Velodrome Events Centre project and I look forward to reading the report which suggests ways in which we might consider this project in the future. Having also visited the Govett-Brewster Gallery and Puke Ariki (the museum) in New Plymouth, I can see how exciting these projects have been to their city. I believe we could enhance our museum facilities considerably and so we should revisit the Heart of Wanganui projects."

Perhaps one of Mickhael's and Dotty's minions could enlighten us to starting with telling us what she means by "revisiting" the HOW projects?

Anonymous said...

When was the last time any poster here got that kind of profile for our city?
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Rob Vinsen, for example, does more to promote Wanganui in a day than Mickey will ever do, because Mickey is a self-aggrandising loon who promotes no-one but himself and his vile mad prejudices.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anon's comments at 7.46am. Attacking the mayor and his family anonymously and personally is not contributing anything to any informed debate concerning WAnganui.

The tone of the posters and their insults is also to be reviled.

Anonymous said...

You let people anonymously post slander
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Just one example. One. Surely that's not too hard.

Incidently, moron, it's libel when it's printed, not slander.

Anonymous said...

The tone of the posters and their insults is also to be reviled.
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More rank hypocrisy from this dupe. D'ya no' feel a wee bit foolish, child, complaining about rudeness on the one hand while supporting Mickey Mayor with the other?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You're a hypocrite and a liar Laws watch.

You let people anonymously post slander on this website about the mayor and his family.

You post anonymously yourself because you are a coward.

You secretly loathe Wanganui because it supports the mayor on many of his issues.

will you post this??

7:46 AM, May 03, 2007
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OMG....This going to be fun.

(1) You're a hypocrite and a liar Laws watch.

* Like all loser Laws supporters, this one can't come up with any supporting statement to alledge Laws Watch of anything that would have to do with hypocrites and liars.

Have a think on that, but, don't strain your brain.

(2) You let people anonymously post slander on this website about the mayor and his family.

* BoRA 1990 protected...We learned that from Mickey.

(3) You post anonymously yourself because you are a coward.

* What identity did you think you selected?..coward. Unless your real name is "Anonymous".

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Some sad individual wrote the following ...

Anonymous said...
I have personally confronted the Mayor and guess what, the info he gave me was only half of the truth
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I would wager none of the above is true because if it was, the obvious hatred of the poster would have seen him/her complain publicly.
___________________________

As the writer of the above original post I realy don't care what you think you sad person. Hatred did not come into it. I had my bitch with Laws. No point in going public particuarly after the code of conduct fiasco eh.

Anonymous said...

Part 1


Anonymous said...
When will any of you moaners work out that ML did not take DWTS seriously but still danced with a broken toe. He looked to be having a great time and he promoted Wanganui.

When was the last time any poster here got that kind of profile for our city?

It is obvious that most of you have a chip on your shoulder. He is democratically elected, has moved Wanganui forward, is a national celebrity and getting bigger and obviously has a great family.

Are you jealous or you just don't like successful people?

7:53 AM, May 03, 2007

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Great!....More fun.

(1) When will any of you moaners work out that ML did not take DWTS seriously but still danced with a broken toe. He looked to be having a great time and he promoted Wanganui.

* Well let's try to decypher this confused loser Laws supporter.

If it appears like we're moaning it's because our sides are sore from laughing at Mickey's DWTS demise.

Mickey didn't take DWTS seriously.AWWW...C'mon, That's what ALL losers say...it's called "self-denial".

Then if Mickey wasn't "serious" why did he go against doctor's orders and "danced" anyway?

An excerpt from the New Zealand Herald:

"....Last week, Wanganui Mayor Michael Laws was voted off after scoring an embarrassing nine points...."

AND

Not even you loser Laws supporters could "save" Mickey from DWTS extinction.

Oh, and you define humiliation as being positive for Wanganui's profile.

Anonymous said...

Part 2


Anonymous said...
When will any of you moaners work out that ML did not take DWTS seriously but still danced with a broken toe. He looked to be having a great time and he promoted Wanganui.

When was the last time any poster here got that kind of profile for our city?

It is obvious that most of you have a chip on your shoulder. He is democratically elected, has moved Wanganui forward, is a national celebrity and getting bigger and obviously has a great family.

Are you jealous or you just don't like successful people?

7:53 AM, May 03, 2007

(2) It is obvious that most of you have a chip on your shoulder. He is democratically elected, has moved Wanganui forward, is a national celebrity and getting bigger and obviously has a great family.

* I wouldn't call it having a chip on anyone's shoulders.

Laws Watch is similar to the American organisation, MoveOn.org.

MoveOn.org rallied to get the Democrats the majority in Congress and look at all the "Rats jumping ship" out of the Bush Administration.

Laws Watch is the equivalent to expose Mickey and his cronies in Wanganui....See, really simple.

(3) "He is democratically elected"

*Yep, marriages start off being trusting..but now it's time to divorce Mickey.

(4) "national celebrity and getting bigger"

* At being New Zealand's biggest fool& asshole.

(5) "and obviously has a great family."

* I'm sure if you **sensationalised** your family they would be noticed and admired.
Hell, Charles Manson and The Manson Family was sensationalised for years.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The tone of the posters and their insults is also to be reviled.
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More rank hypocrisy from this dupe. D'ya no' feel a wee bit foolish, child, complaining about rudeness on the one hand while supporting Mickey Mayor with the other?

4:15 PM, May 03, 2007

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This is what anon means - an insult and anonymous vitriol from someone with poor grammar and no argument.

There are a lot of people who support what Michael Laws is doing for Wanganui and all the new initiatives of the last 3 years. i'm one of them but I'm a "dupe' according to someone not brave enough to give their name.

So I will give mine - it is Karen. I'd give you my surname but I don't trust you to anonymously slander me too.

Anonymous said...

Rob Vinsen v Michael Laws?
Who has done more for Wanganui?
Are you joking? Rob V has never been in any position of influence in Wangas ever. That is not a fair contest.
I must admit I'm scratching my head to find someone of ML's ilk to match him against. Suggestions anyone?

Anonymous said...

Hey Mickey....

Once I know who the winning couple will be on DWTS (Obviously not you and Lauren) I'll change the channel on the tele..There's no sense on watching you performing the "Loser's Dance" for the winning couple...Now is there?

Anonymous said...

There are a lot of people who support what Michael Laws is doing for Wanganui and all the new initiatives of the last 3 years. i'm one of them but I'm a "dupe' according to someone not brave enough to give their name.

So I will give mine - it is Karen. I'd give you my surname but I don't trust you to anonymously slander me too.

6:14 PM, May 03, 2007
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OK.."Karen"..Or whatever, your name really is. Because, in essence, it doesn't matter. No one has to give their real names on a blog, anyway.

Wanganui's city debt is growing bigger and bigger as, we are posting comments on this blog.

The WDC refuses to get a Standard and Poors credit rating...So, they must be hiding something in regards to their financial situation.

AND

The "mayor" Mickey is proposing and promoting the Heart of Wanganui project that is destined to place little Wanganui with a big city debt.

All Mickey has done for Wanganui is completing projects that Chas intitated. The rest was for maintenance and play.

My guess is, you're financially well off like Mickey. So city debt and rate rises won't affect you or Mickey.

What gets me is how people like you and Mickey will "choke" off people in Wanganui that are on benefits. They struggle to make ends meet. Not because they spend to much, but, their income is low.

Wanganui is not a city of a high income population. Wanganui only has a population of around 42,000 people. So according to Stats New Zealand Wanganui is NOT a city. Stats NZ identifies a "City" to have no less than 50,000 people.

It is people such as yourself and Mickey who are are so damn selfish and careless about the lower class is what irks me.

Furthermore, a mayor should be concerned and manage a city that is financially balanced for ALL residents. Not to have to rob from Peter to pay Paul.

Mickey has put the spotlight on Wanganui because all of New Zealand knows where the national fool is.

Anonymous said...

Karen, or whatever your name is, you still haven't provided a single example to back up your claim that your ridiculous mayor has been "slandered" (sic).

Further, given his abusive nature, (see examples by clicking on the Lawswatch front page links for "Kahui Gene", "Tongan King", "peanut allergy" and then cast your mind back to the other occasions that should occur to you.) it seems strange that you should support this man - who speaks ill of the dead before they're in the ground - while complaining about rudeness.

Perhaps you have no sense of irony. As to being called a "dupe", Michael Laws says he believes that "lying is acceptable". And yet you "support" him.

Your mayor has taken an internationally recognised symbol of Wanganui and done his best to destroy it. He has plunged this city into enormous debt to finance his populist prejudice. The concrete and steel monstrosity defacing the riverbank will be under 6 feet of water come the next flood, and the stinking mud and debris that come with that. This will happen, and require clean up, every year. Rising sea levels could leave it under water within 50 years. Gas flares? Your mayor should go and blow off somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Rob Vinsen? That's a joke.

Anonymous said...

Isn't "dupe" an American word? Hi Karen - good on you. I would also give my name but it is an uncommon one and like you, I don't trust LW and if I use a nom de plume I will be accused of all sorts. Anyway, I totally agree with you.

Anonymous said...

I'd give you my surname but I don't trust you to anonymously slander me
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Well I'd give you mine but I don't want to start receiving nuisance phone calls (the police have already been involved when a typical Vision supporter started making threats), I don't want to be libelled on the Chronicle front page as happened to the Code complainants. I don't want some tosser making threats of violence such as those that appeared here recently.

I'm sorry, Karen, that you feel the need to associate yourself with Micahel Laws' thugs, but I think you're a dupe.

Anonymous said...

Michael Laws has been great for Wanganui. It is a shame he is not standing again but can he be tempted to do so?

Come on, Laws Watch. You need him too.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Michael Laws has been great for Wanganui. It is a shame he is not standing again but can he be tempted to do so?

Come on, Laws Watch. You need him too.

12:58 PM, May 04, 2007

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Yeah, Right! Laws Watch needs Mickey like the Iraqi people need George W. Bush.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Isn't "dupe" an American word? Hi Karen - good on you. I would also give my name but it is an uncommon one and like you, I don't trust LW and if I use a nom de plume I will be accused of all sorts. Anyway, I totally agree with you.

8:35 AM, May 04, 2007

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"Dupe" is French.

Anonymous said...

See WDC web-site for news on how to save face ...

Anonymous said...

Gas flares? Your mayor should go and blow off somewhere else.

8:02 AM, May 04, 2007

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Hell, I'd even settle for Mickey having a good case of spontaneous human combustion.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Rob Vinsen? That's a joke.

8:33 AM, May 04, 2007

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Prove it then.

All on New Zealand knows that Mickey is a joke and now New Zealand knows that Mickey is King Clown of DTWS.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Isn't "dupe" an American word? Hi Karen - good on you. I would also give my name but it is an uncommon one and like you, I don't trust LW and if I use a nom de plume I will be accused of all sorts. Anyway, I totally agree with you.

8:35 AM, May 04, 2007

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"Dupe" is defined as such:

Etymology: French, from Middle French duppe, probably alteration of huppe hoopoe

: one that is easily deceived or cheated : FOOL

Anonymous said...

Isn't "dupe" an American word?


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An excerpt from the Associated Press:

Updated: 8:51 p.m. ET May 3, 2007

RICHMOND, Va. - Queen Elizabeth II arrived Thursday for the commemoration of Jamestown’s 400th anniversary and praised the cultural changes that have occurred since she last visited America’s first permanent English settlement 50 years ago.

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Watch yourself...The Americans are English cousins. New Zealand was colonised by the English too.

Anonymous said...

There are some seriously illiterate people who "contribute" to this blog including the socialist idiot replying to Karen.

Laws and his team have provided Wanganui with the lowest rate rises in the country - 4.8% total over three years. Compare that with all other councils Wanganui's size and then try and suggest that Laws has made Wanganui ratepayers poorer! That is ridiculous and my rates in Springvale have actrually dropped since the guy took over.

He has done this at the same time as getting the Splash Centre extension built, developing the waterfront boardwalk, getting a jetty built at Upok, creating new events like the River Queen premiere, saved the School of Glass and now they are even going to be (finally) giving us soft water which will save us buckets in electricity bills and plumbers expenses.

So where is the "hardship"?

Anonymous said...

Karen is right and abuse is the currency in this blog starting with the anonymous authors of LawsWatch. They accuse ML of insult but he does it openly and gives the reasons why.
The mayor has courage.

Anonymous said...

To the hysterical poster alleging that he/she was set upon by Vision "thugs". Where is your proof? Did you contact the Police? Or does someone disagreeing with you constitute "thuggery"?

Anonymous said...

Where is your proof? Did you contact the Police?
______________________________

Who said it was me that contacted them? Yes the cops were involved: I've seen one of the humiliating letters of apology that the Laws thug was forced to write.

Anonymous said...

He has done this at the same time as getting the Splash Centre extension built, developing the waterfront boardwalk, getting a jetty built at Upok, creating new events like the River Queen premiere, saved the School of Glass and now they are even going to be (finally) giving us soft water which will save us buckets in electricity bills and plumbers expenses.

So where is the "hardship"?

3:42 PM, May 04, 2007
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Whoa! Let the fun begin!

(1) "He has done this at the same time as getting the Splash Centre extension built"

* A Splash Centre extension does nothing to enhance a "city". Plus, it does nothing for people who live in Wanganui East. When Wanganui East has its own pool.

So what does Mickey do? He'll have the Wanganui East pool closed to force residents in Wanganui East to drive all the way over to Springvale..to help pay for the extention. Real democracy, Yeah..Right.

(2) "developing the waterfront boardwalk"

* Nonsense...it's just "eye-lollies"... That waterfront boardwalk will be underwater in the years to come...more wasted ratepayer's money up the river.

(3) "getting a jetty built at Upok"

* "...with substantial funds from Wanganui District Council."

How much was the funding by the WDC (ratepayers)?

(4) "creating new events like the River Queen premiere"

* Yawn..BORING..Big deal. Matamata has "Hobbiton: Tours of the Hobbiton village movie set are available in Matamata, New Zealand. Visitors can see the remnants of the original Hobbiton village set from The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy.

(5) "saved the School of Glass "

* Yaaawwwnnn...Not for long...Glass blowing is a third world art. This is the 21th century. The age of technology.

(6) "giving us soft water"

* The bore results show that softer water sources do exist closer to the city. The cost of a treatment plant and new bore would be about $6M, with additional operating costs of $400,000 per year.

Where are these softer water sources, and, how large are they (how long will it be before they dry out)?

$6,000,000?!
$400,000 per year operating costs?

Wanganui already has a huge debt.

You remind me of the fool with a chequing account. When the bank notified the fool of all the bounced checks..The fool said "how could I be broke?. I still have plenty of cheque notes"

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Karen is right and abuse is the currency in this blog starting with the anonymous authors of LawsWatch. They accuse ML of insult but he does it openly and gives the reasons why.
The mayor has courage.

3:44 PM, May 04, 2007

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Who cares about names..The facts presented against Mickey are correct.

Courage?...Mickey comes on this blog, to type his trash, and never puts up his name.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Karen is right and abuse is the currency in this blog starting with the anonymous authors of LawsWatch. They accuse ML of insult but he does it openly and gives the reasons why.
The mayor has courage.

3:44 PM, May 04, 2007
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OK loser Laws supporter. Why did you select "Anonymous"?

It's clear to see that Mickey is getting a good "slamming" here on LW because the loser (F)Laws supporters want to know who we are and where we come from.

But only one of them put up a name that no one has any idea that it is "her" real name.

Anonymous said...

Laws and his team have provided Wanganui with the lowest rate rises in the country - 4.8% total over three years. Compare that with all other councils Wanganui's size and then try and suggest that Laws has made Wanganui ratepayers poorer! That is ridiculous and my rates in Springvale have actrually dropped since the guy took over.

3:42 PM, May 04, 2007

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Hmmmm...I have a friend that lives in a council flat on a benefit that's financially struggling in Wanganui, all due to Mickey's non-essential Wanganui CBD "cosmetics", and, silly Splash Centre extension that will force the closure of the Wanganui East pool.

And, now with ignoramuses like yourself, senior citizens will be inceasingly financially burdened due to the Heart of Wanganui project.

So what will Mickey's resolution be for them? Mickey will probably give some lame answer like Dick Hubbard did, suggesting that senior citizens get bank loans.

Then LW had this to say in their

Tuesday, March 06, 2007

Turning the tables Post

"Hold that thought, Watchers, and turn your attention to the latest piece of Mickery... sorry, trickery, from the Mayor who promised "nil rates increases": a rates increase. Of 1.8 percent, no less, on top of a 3 percent increase in 2006/07, for a grand total of 4.8 percent over three years.

And that's if you accept that 2005/06 actually brought forth a nil rates rise, which slobbering lapdog "senior reporter" John Maslin inevitably does. That of course was Michael Laws-speak for "some people will get screwed while some will benefit, for a median rise of nil". But who's counting, right? Certainly not Mas, who was editor at the time."

Anonymous said...

But only one of them put up a name that no one has any idea that it is "her" real name.

7:56 PM, May 04, 2007

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See what I mean Karen? That is one reason why I don't put my name up.

LW - see Anon 7.44 on 4 May. Boring. He/she goes on and on - and on. Why do you allow this shit. Keep it short Anon or don't you have the intelligence for that.

Anonymous said...

giving us soft water which will save us buckets in electricity bills and plumbers expenses.

So where is the "hardship"?

3:42 PM, May 04, 2007
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Whoa! I almost forgot to comment further on these issues.

(1)"giving us soft water"


* How much did it cost to have these exploritory "bores" and who did the soft water exploration?

Were the citizens of Wanganui notified?


(2) "save us buckets in electricity bills"

* Nonsense....Having "Hard" or "Soft" water does not change a washing machine's wash cycle, which is anywhere between 20-30 mins.

Furthermore, Having "Hard" or "Soft" water does not change the time it takes for a hot water heater to heat water. Unless you have a large hot water heater.

None of the above take over an hour in which you are billed per kilowatt hour.

Stop watching a lot of tele and start replacing your standard light bulbs with energy-saving light bulbs (compact fluorescent lamps).

Energy-saving light bulbs don't blow out as aften as standard incandescent (filament) bulbs..Therefore saving you money to replace the standard light bulbs. This will save you "buckets" on electricity bills. But, will not stop the power company from increasing power rates on you bills..**Not** Mickey's soft water bullshit.

****This is common sense people****



(3) "and plumbers expenses"

* I'll give that to you. But, those issues are far and few. And, are only a small fraction of any savings...Completely insignificant.

Anonymous said...

And it's goodbye to Ngiare

Anonymous said...

About soft water...Since Mickey doesn't want to disclose to the public the measurements of the level of hardness of water quality (Soft to Hard)...I will.

Then Laws Watch can monitor Mickey's $6,000,000 price tag and 400,000/yr. operating cost, of "soft water" from these "bores".

The Water Quality Association of the United States defines hard water as water containing dissolved hardness minerals above 1 GPG (grains per gallon). The most common hardness causing minerals are Calcium and Magnesium. Levels of hardness are classified as follows:


Soft Water - less than 1 GPG
Slightly hard - 1 to 3.5 GPG
Moderately hard - 3.5 to 7 GPG
Hard - 7 to 10.5 GPG
Very Hard - 10.5 and higher GPG


Read and Heed... Mickey and the WDC.

Anonymous said...

About soft water..

OK folks, here's a good website for your viewing pleasure. Remember, copy and paste:

http://www.keidel.com/
resource/water/hard.htm#minus


Compliments from your friendly neighbourhood Laws Watch supporter.

Anonymous said...

Karen says ...

I have proven my point. If anyone writes anything vaguely supportive of the mayor and his council then you get anonymously abused.

Michael Laws has changed wanganui for the better these last three years and has upset the arts fraternity and some of the old guard. Those two groups represent the smallest minority of voters - very vocal and very negative but our mayor has ridden over both of them.

I hope the stands for mayor again although I would also like him to sort out our horrific health board.

Anonymous said...

A Liar writes -

Where is your proof? Did you contact the Police?
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Who said it was me that contacted them? Yes the cops were involved: I've seen one of the humiliating letters of apology that the Laws thug was forced to write.

6:48 PM, May 04, 2007

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This would be a lie for a simple reason. If it existed, the whole of Wanganui and newspaper would have a copy (including this blog) and have printed it.

Yet another lie by anti-Laws critics who invent things, type them on this website and never provide proof.

Karen is right. You are scumbags. If anything was ever true it would not be posted on this website anonymously.

Anonymous said...

To Laws WatcH:

Well, did you contact the mayor's office or the council and "challenge" them to produce the radio ratings and Standard and Poors survey?

No, I thought not.

Caught lying again.

On the S & P ratings: which other councils Wanganui's size have such ratings?

None.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
But only one of them put up a name that no one has any idea that it is "her" real name.

7:56 PM, May 04, 2007

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See what I mean Karen? That is one reason why I don't put my name up.

LW - see Anon 7.44 on 4 May. Boring. He/she goes on and on - and on. Why do you allow this shit. Keep it short Anon or don't you have the intelligence for that.

7:24 AM, May 05, 2007
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Hello Mickey....

The intelligence is there. I provide supporting statements, to my statements. Which you Loser Laws Supporters never do.

And since your response doesn't have the Laws Watch logo...You can kiss my arse.

I don't take orders from the likes of you, and, the last time I remember, when I woke up this morning, New Zealand was still a democratic country.

Have a nice day.

Anonymous said...

Where is your proof? Did you contact the Police?
______________________________

Who said it was me that contacted them? Yes the cops were involved: I've seen one of the humiliating letters of apology that the Laws thug was forced to write.

6:48 PM, May 04, 2007

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This would be a lie for a simple reason. If it existed, the whole of Wanganui and newspaper would have a copy (including this blog) and have printed it.

Yet another lie by anti-Laws critics who invent things, type them on this website and never provide proof.
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This going to be fun!

(1)"This would be a lie for a simple reason."

* ++Assuming++ someone is a liar is NOT proving they are a liar....Got it?

Nice try though?

Keep "digging".

Anonymous said...

A fool wrote

This would be a lie for a simple reason. If it existed, the whole of Wanganui and newspaper would have a copy (including this blog) and have printed it.

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There are two letters per offence, actually. I've seen one set. One letter is written on Bell St. Police stationery, from the officer who took the complaint, and got the identity of the offender from Telecom. It has that blue and white striped cop pattern. The other letter was written by the guilty party, apologising, expressing regret and promising that it would never happen again, blah blah.

Do you think it would be better to post scans of them now, or wait 'til the election's a bit closer? All identifying marks will be erased, of course.

What do you think, Watchers? Shall we let anonymickey froth some more?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To Laws WatcH:

Well, did you contact the mayor's office or the council and "challenge" them to produce the radio ratings and Standard and Poors survey?

No, I thought not.

Caught lying again.

On the S & P ratings: which other councils Wanganui's size have such ratings?

None.

12:37 PM, May 05, 2007

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Well, let's see...

Since I am a Laws Watch supporter..I don't have the answer regarding the "challenge".

But, I will stand by Laws Watch and refer you to the Laws Watch Post:

Thursday, January 11, 2007

"You wouldn't credit it"


Have a read on that and let the debate begin.

I'll title the debate: "All Mickey wants to do is spend, spend, spend."

Anonymous said...

Karen is right. You are scumbags. If anything was ever true it would not be posted on this website anonymously.

12:35 PM, May 05, 2007

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Hey Einstein....This IS a Laws Watch site...NOT a we love Laws site.

So why don't you dispense with your identity "probe" when we don't have to disclose our identities.

Furthermore, you haven't even proved what was said against Mickey is false.

You need to do that first, before you start trying to find out who we are.

Anonymous said...

Do you think it would be better to post scans of them now, or wait 'til the election's a bit closer? All identifying marks will be erased, of course.

What do you think, Watchers? Shall we let anonymickey froth some more?

5:42 PM, May 05, 2007
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Let's wait until the elections are near.

Anonymous said...

Some loser wrote:

If anything was ever true it would not be posted on this website anonymously.
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But prior to that another typical Vision supporter had written:

Tired of the threatening phone calls? Yes, we know you've been getting them.

1:19 PM, March 16, 2007
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Get your stories straight. It must be hard keeping track of all the lies but this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Anonymous said...

Controversial talkback host Michael Laws wants his bosses at Radio Live to plead not guilty to contempt of court charges.

The station's owner, media giant Canwest, has pleaded guilty to broadcasting details that could have led to the identification of sex offender Graham Capill's victims. It follows comments made on air by Radio Live drive-time host James Coleman.

Both Laws and Coleman face charges for remarks made about the Capill case.

6:27 PM, April 29, 2007

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Say Laws Watch....How about if we take a close watch at the above and see how it pans out for Mickey.

Sometimes CanWest will display issues on their CanWest MediaWorks website. Which is :

http://www.mediaworks.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=134


But, the New Zealand Herald will publish it.