Insert nut pun here
You asked for it, Watchers, and here it is. The full unexpurgated text of the email exchange between a concerned parent and His Worship the Mayor Michael Laws. It's a shining example of one anonymous's assertion that "The mayor does not respond aggressively unless the provocation is similarly aggressive".
First, a little background for those unfamiliar with the story. Mickey the publicity-seeking columnist (whom anons will no doubt now be at pains to remind us is a completely different person to Michael Laws, dignified and kindly Mayor of Wanganui) lambasted Wadestown Primary School banning peanuts so as to reduce the risk of an allergic student going into anaphylactic shock and dying:
...it had not been possible - until now - to identify the epicentre, the ground zero of PC-dom in Wellington. Until last week. That's when Wadestown Primary School banned peanut butter sandwiches from its precincts because someone, somewhere, sometime might just have a nut allergy. And - omigod -die. For the same reason, they've also banned Nutella sandwiches, hazel nuts, cashew nuts, muesli bars and anything that has ever been near a nut product in a dairy, supermarket or mum's pantry. In other words: No nuts.Alarmed by this cavalier attitude to serious risk vs minor inconvenience (expect a Laws-sponsored amendment to the Bill of Rights enshrining every child's inalienable right to peanut butter sandwiches at all times), the parents of three boys with severe peanut and other nut allergies got in touch. They're Wanganui citizens as well as readers of the Sunday Star Times, and the school their children attend in Wanganui has adrenalin injection kits that must be used in case of reaction to the allergies, without which the boys, and any other students similarly afflicted, go into anaphylactic shock - and die.
Now this may be simply due to the fact that there are already too many on their board of trustees and in the staff room. Probably... Yes, but what happens to those children who accept and venerate the nut as part of their culture? Say, vegetarians? Having enforced the ban, the Wadestown staff and trustees could not be seen to be backing down. On the other hand - and despite good medical evidence - vegetarians are people too.
And oppressed people - primarily due to not shaving their legs, eschewing deodorants and bathing in their own urine. But like the good teachers' college graduates that they are, Wadestown found a solution. They would isolate the nut-crunchers to a "safe" area of the school. The peanut purveyors would receive a form of supervised community care. Although the aim would still be to wean them from their insensitivity and immaturity.
Mr Laws, We were alarmed to read your column in the Sunday Times this week regarding peanut allergy. You clearly have no knowledge in this area at all. It has become not a matter of political correctness- but a way of keeping children alive.Ooooo just smell that aggressive provocation dripping from every word, Watchers! Deeply hurt by such a wounding personal attack, His Worship responds:
We have three sons aged 9,7,5 who all have a life threatening peanut allergy. They are also allergic to treenuts - hazelnuts etc., any nut- most people who have severe peanut allergies have a total tree nut allergy as well. (Did you not know nutella is made from
peanuts?). They are so severe we carry epipens (adrenaline) with us at all times- as if we didn't and they were to have peanuts they would be OMIGOD DEAD.
They also have other severe food allergies as well - but anyone who knows anything about peanut allergies know that a peanut allergy is the most severe you can have as it can affect people by smell, airborne or touch with dire consequences. When our oldest son was 6 he was chased by some children with peanuts - because they wanted to see what would happen if he ate them. We do agree with you on one point- if he had been made to eat them it would be like crunching on a cyanide pill - and without medical intervention he would be OMIGOD DEAD.
Hence the school has tried to put a peanut ban on since then - 3 years ago - though lack of understanding (parents) this isn't always the case. This school is St Annes School. You may actually find that other schools through similar experiences have a ban placed on them as well. Our youngest (5) is very severe with multiple allergies and this term alone he has had 2 major anaphylactic attacks which have required adrenaline - the latter being so bad he needed two shots. It has very recently come to our attention that one class's parents do not adhere to the peanut ban and it is free for all peanuts and sandwiches - we cannot prove it but are now wondering if this is the cause of his major attacks. So much so that he was meant to be moved up next term - but are keeping him where he is until this can be rectified.
It is so frustrating have a child with life threatening allergies - with the attitude of "he'll be right" and not been able to pinpoint what the cause has been - as traces can set off a major reaction. We wanted to let you know that your lack of understanding on this subject is indeed a lot of frustration for the many families around NZ who experience this problem and little do you know but this is what puts our children's lives in danger everyday.
You may think we are neurotic parents - but we hope for your sake you never have to sit in an ambulance of in A & E and see your child completely swollen up and struggling for breath - because if it wasn't for medical intervention they would be OMIGOD DEAD.
This is the reality we live with every day- and will for ever as we have been told by specialists they will never grow out of this allergy as it is so severe. We have to constantly check what is in food labels and can be quite a headache - but not half as bad if you get it wrong!!!! Incidentally St Annes has 5 severe peanut allergy children at the school that require adrenaline - a lot closer to home than you thought huh! We hope this gives you something to think about and understand generally people don't take drastic measures unless required. In our opinion AVOIDANCE IS THE ONLY CURE.
Regards,
Jo and Matt Boult
Then don't send your kids to school then. Where they inconvenience all others because it's your kids with the problem. To impose your children's affliction upon others shows the immaturity and selfishness of people such as yourself.We can only guess at the thoughts running through the minds of the recipients of this communication... but they do a pretty good job of explaining that - and the flaws in Mickey's "argument" - themselves in their reply:
Next you'll be wanting to ban their contact with peanut-eating sporting youngsters, Cub leaders & the like.
Michael Laws
Mr Laws, Thank you for replying to my email. My first thoughts on reading it were this must be a joke - someone who has children of their own could not possibly be so coldhearted and uncaring and not think "gee I don't know what I am talking about - I apologise for my uneducated writing".Poor Mickey. Emotionally shattered by being portrayed as "uncaring", "coldhearted" and even (gasp!) addicted to peanuts by someone "downright angry", he carefully composes one of those non aggressive replies for which - in some anonymous circles at least - he is renowned... and an all-time pot/kettle example if ever we saw one:
You obviously never took the time to even read what I had to say. I am now downright angry. If you think that trying to do the best you can to keep your children safe and alive is selfish I seriously doubt your parenting skills. If you honestly feel that someone cannot withhold from having peanuts for 6 hours in the day - so that it would mean it would not put a fellow classmates life in serious danger - than you must really have an addiction to the stuff.
We are not in council now and we are not trying to play games with people - we are trying to keep a lot of children's lives safe. If you cannot comprehend the seriousness of this situation I cannot believe you could be taken seriously in anything. I would find it very hard to find any sympathy for you now if (god forbid) anything (say like a life threatening allergy) was to be imposed on your family.
I have forwarded my letter and your answer onto allergy awareness - as it is hardhearted people like you that make the work of such a worthwhile organisation in NZ so hard - no doubt you may hear back from them.
As for the sports games - I don't feel that is even worth commenting on - but hey take a look in the mirror and see who the real immature one is. By the way, if this problem did happen to be inflicted upon you - where would you want your children educated - or hang on a minute, you would be the front man lobbying for allergies as then you would realise it could happen to your little darlings after all.
I am also telling everyone and anyone about your reply - the disgust so far is immense - aren't you the mayor of Wanganui? I feel you have lost a lot of votes as I for one used to think you weren't such a bad guy - but now my opinion on that has totally changed.
Jo Boult
You're a fascist idiot.Yes, Watchers, we give you His Worship the Mayor of Wanganui, Michael Laws. A man for whom care is a four letter word.
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45 comments:
A far as I know, this email is slowly making it's way around town.
Yet another short-sighted post, Lawswatch. Clearly, with Mickey's obvious talent for "non-aggressive" responses to provocation I - and I'm sure a majority of Wanganui residents - would be proud to have him represent us in various fora.
I'd suggest starting him off in Lebanon. Or if that's too far out of the way, he could front up to the next gang convention and let them know precisely why he doesn't like them.
Or is it just polite concerned mothers he's so tough with?
Anonymickey predictably said...
I'm not the mayor … I'm not the mayor … I'm not the mayor … I'm not the mayor … I'm not the mayor … blah blah blah
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Tee hee hee tee hee hee ha ha ha hee hee hee ... On the basis that laughter is the best medicine, thanks Mickey! You’re doing more for the health and wellbeing of Wanganui citizens by spinning this hilarious crap in here than you ever will by wading into health politics. Tee hee hee tee hee hee ha ha ha hee hee hee
“…. published studies have shown that laughing lowers blood pressure, reduces stress hormones, increases muscle flexion, and boosts immune function by raising levels of infection-fighting T-cells, disease-fighting proteins called Gamma-interferon and B-cells, which produce disease-destroying antibodies. Laughter also triggers the release of endorphins, the body's natural painkillers, and produces a general sense of well-being.”
How on earth did Wanganui vote this Mad Mayor in?
Off topic but a pointer if other have the same blogspot bug as I... on the comments page the visual verification image (those weird letters you have to type) is not there! Type your comment and submit ignoring the weird letters (that aren't there!), the following page will tell you that you didn't do the letters. This page contains the letters as norm.
I'd hate to think that would-be bloggers couldn't vent their anger at Flaws due to a problem with blogspot.
I voted for Michael Laws.
I am now disgusted by Michael Laws.
The man is self centered and interested in nothing but his image. The 3 eligible voters in this house wouldn't go near him again and we all intend to spread the word to make sure people don't miss this episode.
Is the paper aware of this crap?
Wondered when this would hit the cave ..... interesting insight to the man.
Wonder how many other nasty e-mails are out there, perhaps JS could share some of hers with us?
The e-mail proves two things;
1. The mayor was insulted first;
2. when he replied he was insulted again.
Jo Boult got what she deserved.
Michael Laws will piss in (again) as mayor. No-one cares about peanut-phobes, everyone cares about rates.
i am tempted
wait til i leave the marvellously unreal world of penang
js
Sorry to be a bore, but I would love to hear from the abusive 'anon' from the last post. The person who claimed that the Mayor only lashed out when backed into a corner.
Do you stand corrected?
Hopefully you now appreciate what 'we', the people who encounter the Mayor on a regular basis, have to endure.
Oh God, he's actually digging his own grave (with extra room for ego). Have you forwarded this to, say, the Dom? The Herald? Anyone not directly associated with the Chronicle? If not, might I suggest you do?
I suppose you have to expect the s.i. nutters to stand up for the nutphobias. :-)
Come on Chron, do some reporting .....
So Mickey, Dotty and Rangi trotted off to Police HQ in Wellington and he's still complaining that he's "getting mixed messages" about the gang bylaw.
So what part of "IT'S A DUMB IDEA" don't you understand, Mickey?
And how much more ratepayers' money do you intend to waste on it?
What a hypocrite !
While Laws is pleading the case for our mothers woes at Wanganui Hospital, his true persona is revealed in these emails.
Even blinkered Visionites such as Bob and Dotty could,nt excuse this behaviour from their messiah - could they?
Hey, Suckhole, you know who you are, the one who spends all his/her time in Mickey's rectum. You said Mickey only behaves like an aggressive wanker when he's provoked, but we all know animals react with anger when they're afraid.
What's he afraid of? Or is he just so incompetent he's never even learnt to hear different viewpoints?
Let's face it, the email exchange exposes the well known fact that the Mayor of Wanganui is a pathetic loser.
Didn't the diVision mob and hangers on like Wills and McGregor say in the code of conduct that this sort of mayoral abuse is just fine by them? Shows how out of touch they are with public opinion!
Anonymous said...
The e-mail proves two things;
1. The mayor was insulted first;
2. when he replied he was insulted again.
Jo Boult got what she deserved.
10:09 PM, August 01, 2006
^^^^^^^
This comment proves two things;
1. The mayor is barking mad.
2. The mayor is barking mad.
Wanganui has done nothing to deserve this.
The e-mail proves two things;
1. The mayor was insulted first;
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No, Suckhole, it shows nothing of the sort. The first insult is the phrase "immature & selfish".
But now we know that another way to make Mickey mess himself (and provide you with some warm food) is to imply that he might be wrong about something.
Is that all you ever get to eat?
And then there was the embarrassment of having another mayor drawing attention to another vile and stupid by Mickey, a couple of weeks ago in the horrible aftermath of the Tokoroa schoolteacher's murder.
This is the way Wanganui is now being represented as Mickey puts the boot into yet another town/city, this one in at a time when it is vulnerable and grieving.
What sort of mad bastard does this sort of thing?
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From the Rotorua DSaily Post, 26 July:
South Waikato mayor Neil Sinclair was among the crowd outside the court and tried to plead for calm.
Standing on the back of a utility truck, he thanked the crowd for being there but asked that they not allow violence to breed more violence.
He praised the police for the "fantastic" job they had done in making an arrest and thanked the community for its help, urging anyone with any more information to contact police.
Mr Sinclair said he was upset at negative comments made about Tokoroa by media commentators including Wanganui mayor Michael Laws.
Mr Sinclair said Tokoroa was a safe place and he was proud to live in the South Waikato.
"Don't let other people or tabloid journalism put us down."
Bearhunter ... great idea!
The e-mail proves two things;
1. The mayor was insulted first
Please refernce what you consider to be an insult to the Mayor in the first email from Mrs Boult.
Granted, after having been called "immature" and "selfish" and told her children have no place at school - any school - because of an illness, Mrs Boult responded by admitting she was "downright angry", called the Mayor's opinion on peanut allergy "uneducated" (when "ill-informed" or "ignorant" might have been more gramatically correct) and questioned his parenting skills. She did not, however, use pejorative terms like "fascist".
But let's pretend, for the sake of argument, that sensitive little Michael was upset by such a robust critique. That still brings us back to our original question: Where, in Mrs Boult's first email is any "insult" which justifies the rude, dismissive and cruel (to the children) initial reponse from the Mayor, which triggered Mrs Boult's second missive?
Normally, anon, we accept the right of anyone to express opinions supporting the Mayor as being fair comment. It's why we publish them. But your assertion is, to put it bluntly, an outright lie.
But your assertion is, to put it bluntly, an outright lie.
2:51 PM, August 02, 2006
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What on earth do you expect, LawsWatch, from an outright liar but outright lies?
What is one more lie from the Diva between friends?
It's not really surprising that Mickey is too much of a coward to turn up at local government conferences. Is there another city, town or district, or mayor, that he hasn't managed to offend yet?
It's obvious that when someone suggests that the mayor's children might get terminally ill and Boult says she'd show no sympathy that a number of lines have been crossed.
The writer personalised the issue but Laws only repeated what he said in the original article.
Then Boult gets mad and the exchange clearly was directed at the mayor's kids. At "fascist idiot" I'd say she got off lightly. If someone had said that about my kids I would have decked them.
It's time some of you people opened BOTH eyes.
PS
It is interesting that the mayor fights for all the kids to have access to quality health care at your local hospital in wangas and you ignore that.
We wonder from afar at the mental condition of the boggers, not your mayor. A guy with his own national radio and Tv shows and own national newspaper column is a "loser"? I'll take that description if you give me all those three things.
Good to see Mickey's poodle WINC (read Ron Janes and Nigelwho Morris) have got Laws-style lying down to fine art but how embarrassing to see them claiming in a big advt in the Dominion Post:
"Wanganui is two hours easy drive from Wanganui ..."
As friends in Wellington (incredulous at the stupidity of people who think they can get away with blatant lies like this) only Mark Lundy could hope to do the 200kms with all its go-slow sections in a time like that.
Or ... more likely Mickey, Dotty and Wills in a hurry to leave town after getting right up the nose of the assistant commissioner of police.
But your assertion is, to put it bluntly, an outright lie.
2:51 PM, August 02, 2006
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PS
It is interesting that the mayor fights for all the kids to have access to quality health care at your local hospital in wangas and you ignore that.
6:09 PM, August 02, 2006
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For god's sake, Mickey, go and have your dinner with the kid(s) will you. This is a place for the grown-ups.
anon
Good to see Mickey's poodle WINC (read Ron Janes and Nigelwho Morris) have got Laws-style lying down to fine art but how embarrassing to see them claiming in a big advt in the Dominion Post:
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In future all Laws-directed, inspired and implemented official lying should be restricted to the Chron, "council" publications and websites. Just stop making Wanganui look like idiots in the national media, puleeeaaase!!!
Looking at this disgraceful email exchange, and the other evidence of the mayor's incontinence, it seems somewhat ironic that he spent so much radio time crying foul over a rugby player urinating in public.
Good to see Mickey's poodle WINC (read Ron Janes and Nigelwho Morris) have got Laws-style lying down to fine art but how embarrassing to see them claiming in a big advt in the Dominion Post:
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Is Morris's company is getting contracts to do the council's publicity work? And if so how much is it worth to him to be pushing the Wanganui Inc barrow?
...when someone suggests that the mayor's children might get terminally ill and Boult says she'd show no sympathy that a number of lines have been crossed.
Nope, when his own words are there in black and white (well, blue and white in our case) you're not going to get away with being disingenuous, anon.
Boult says: "I would find it very hard to find any sympathy for you now if (god forbid) anything (say like a life threatening allergy) was to be imposed on your family.
Not that she has no sympathy, just that she'd have trouble finding it. Not a terminal illness, a life-threatening allergy just like her own kids have. And not even his kids. His "family", which could include anyone from the Mayoress to his Great Aunt Gertrude (if he has one).
Not the nicest thing to say, we grant you, but not as bad as you make out. And most importantly, not in her first email.
The writer personalised the issue but Laws only repeated what he said in the original article.
Wrong timeline. Those comments are in the second email, responding angrily to Laws' dismissal of her concern for her children's lives - a response in which he personalised his newspaper comments to refer to Mrs Boult's children before she referred to his: ...don't send your kids to school then. Where they inconvenience all others because it's your kids with the problem..."
If someone had said that about my kids I would have decked them.
Okay let's ask you this. Say we published a post advocating the removal of speed restrictions outside schools, because it inconvenienced the parents who picked up their kids. You wrote politely pointing out that, as a parent whose kids walk home, they'd be at risk from such a policy. And our response was to say "...don't send your kids to school then. Where they inconvenience all others because it's your kids with the problem..." rather than (at the very least) acknowledging your understandable concern for your children's safety.
Then who'd you be looking to deck?
WE shall lament ML's lack of compassion and wisdom for decades to come.
Nice to see the Dom at least has some journalistic integrity. (Wonder who could have alerted them? Hmm) And that ML is sticking to his schizophrenic defence: "I wrote that not as mayor of Wanganui" etc. Christ, what a dick. HE e-mailed a ratepayer to call her a fascist FFS. Mind you, that'll be one less Dom reporter he ever talks to again....
"Britton Broune, you are exiled from this realm!"
What is this whole exchange, and the above comments from AnonyMickey, but more evidence (as though any were needed) that Mickey should gather up his crone and the little Fitz-Laws-Brookhammers and piss off to North Korea where he belongs?
So we now have the punk mayor talking about "decking" people. Wouldn't he be more likely to send in the Amazon and keep a safe distance behind?
Does the "letters to the edit" allow pointers? Someone should post a letter informing them about this letter and maybe provide a link to this site.
Of course the letter author would lose thier anonimity and run the risk of being abused by the Mayor.
It's good to see Mickey's and the mayormess's ongoing programme of lying about Horizons being exposed again in the Chron letters today.
If we cannot have local concerns aired by our local paper, it may as well cease publication. Come on Chronicle - where are you ?
I thought the news may have picked up on it seeing as "mayors" seem to be in the news a fair bit of late. I suppose he just isn't as newsworthy these days.
I don't get it. I just don't get it. Even in the DomPost article, the Mayor is claiming that he was attacked in an abusive email. We've all seen the correspondence. He started the abuse.
Thankfully he isn't standing again and we only have to put up with him for a few more months.
Hubbard on Close-up tonight speaking of Aucklands large rate increases. Previous rate increase freezes have forced our hand and we now have to have these rises to play catch up.
Is this what Wanganui has to look forward to? Time to start putting those strange new coins in a jar for the post-Laws era!
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