Tuesday, August 09, 2005

And in tomorrow's news...

Update: The following is satire, humour, whimsy, a pinch of irony and a dash of prestidigitation. It is not to be taken seriously.



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71 comments:

Anonymous said...

Last time I saw, Helen Lawrence was still the mayor's press secretary. And, when you think about it from a professional point of view (& putting aside all politics) - doing one ace of a job. I admire smarts no matter from which quarter.

Anonymous said...

She actually scares the shit out of me. Saw her in action once. Not a lady to take prisoners. What's her background?

Anonymous said...

Yes, Helen does a good job. It must be bloody difficult finding something positive to say about Michael every day!

Anonymous said...

She used to work with (or close to?) Laws in Parliament. Not sure exactly in which capacity

Anonymous said...

Can we talk by-election?
I see its set for March 2006 - does anyone else realise that's six months away? A bloody eternity.
Let's have a poll on our ideal anti-Laws candidate. Please, LawsWatch, that's what we need - the ideal candidate to win.
Here's a sample.
1. Rob Vinsen
2. John Martin
3. Ross Mitchell/Anyon
4. Judith Timpany (Whanganui Foundation)
5. Margaret Campion
6. Emma Camden
We need to choose one and get behind them but they need to start campaigning now. A possible 7th would be Matt Dutton, but he says he's not interested. I'd go Carol [Webb] but is she as strong as the above?

Anonymous said...

How about Scruffy the dog, he would get great press coverage and would be assured the mob vote

Anonymous said...

Seriously!

Matt Dutton said...

That is correct. There are far better candidates than me, anyway.
Let's find out who's standing first, too. There might be a few surprises. No I haven't heard anything.

I agree that "we" should try and back one candidate, but I question the wisdom of putting up an "Arts" candidate. I don't care who we elect so long as their attitude is that we that Council is there to support all the residents of Wanganui. This emphasis on "my constituency" that populists make such a virtue of is dangerous, I think. It's not just Michael, incidently, there are returned councillors who take exactly the same tack.

The problem as I see it with this approach is that it leaves one utterly ethically compromised. I prefer a candidate to make up their own mind, listen to arguments on the table. With the greatest of respect, the issues are complex; voters have no chance of understanding all of them. I have a good understanding of Maths up to first year degree level, a degree in Industrial Design, and eighteen years of professional experience, and I've simply given up trying to understand all the things that go across the Council table. That's why we employ people to read those council agendae on our behalf. that's why it pisses me off when Michael makes simplistic nonsense of it for no good reason I can see.

Matt Dutton said...

As to referendoh, I can see the virtue in them, but if we're going to make civic projects the subject of them I think we have to do several other things. Firstly, I think Council should take submissions as to what questions to ask. Secondly, I think that clear distinctions should be made between yes/no referenda, and the "set the priority" referendumb we had already. 8% of the 50 or so percent who voted wanted the (ugly, sorry) Warren Mahoney extension. But we're talking about a poll that was boycotted on principle by, among other people, a senior partner in a law firm of my acquaintance, me, Ross, most of the artists I know, etc. etc.

The only credibility I need to bring my opinions to this debate is the direct debit for rates that I allow to flow from my coffers to councils. Die Sarjeant Gallery ist der besten Kunstgalerien in dem land. So says a German website. Kunst means Art, incidently. we must invest in our strengths; the key to any successful business is to do what you're already doing, more, and better. There's a lesson there for Council. They serve us. It's time they woke up to the fact that that means all of us, all the time.

Anonymous said...

I'd put John Martin at the top of the list, Rob Vinsen if Martin's not a starter.

Anonymous said...

Please, no one do or say anything to encourage Ross M-A to even think of standing.

Anonymous said...

LawsWatch, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. A Spin Fairy can only do so much with the dodgy material she's fed, ie silk purses and sow's ears. What the Diva needs is a FAIRY GODMOTHER to grant his every wish.

So what do we think his three top wishes would be?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Please, no one do or say anything to encourage

you just took care of that yourself

Laws Watch said...

Kunst means Art, incidently.

It does? And for a second there, we had our hopes up, Matt. We don't know much about art, but we know what we like.

LawsWatch would be happy to run a poll of potential by-election candidates. Doing so might give people uncertain of their potential popularity the courage to put their names forward, and equally may discourage those who don't have a snowball's from entering the race and splitting the vote.

So, add your nominations below. Any names mentioned will be included in a poll to be run from tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon onwards. Kind of like Big Brother but with extra democracy.

Late entries will not be accepted, because we're too bloody lazy to re-code it every time you come up with a new name.

Anonymous said...

Ross M-A would be great.

Anonymous said...

Oh goodie, this is just like a referendumb but without the Diva telling us what to vote for. My top three picks:

John Martin
Rob Vinsen
Margaret Campion

Anonymous said...

Michael will just nominate a new visionite and the voters will go with it...
and the bleating in here will only strengthen His arm...

Anonymous said...

I thought it was only Carol and Matt who visit this site. You can't have it both ways

Anonymous said...

Yes - those are the top three altho' Ross Mitchell-Anyon has been a councillor and would pose the greater threat to Laws if elected. Martin and Campion are bland and cyphers, Vinsen is spirited & has business support.

Anonymous said...

You really believe the Spin Fairy is doing the spin?

Anonymous said...

I thought - according to this LawsWatch - that she was leaving? C'mon - can't have it both ways.

Laws Watch said...

Just to clarify - we are in no way implying that Helen Lawrence is leaving. It's Tuesday night, TV is rubbish, we're bored, we have Photoshop and far too much red cordial for our own good.

Apologies for any confusion.

Anonymous said...

Helen Lawrence worked for SOEs and Defence minister, Labour's Mark Burton. Also for the Nat's Nick Smith MP. No wonder she's running rings.

Anonymous said...

Yeah and she gave all that up to work for micheal.....hmm

Anonymous said...

Naughty, naughty LawsWatch. We expect breaking stories here, not pissed artifices.
So - one-up on the GK Taylor story
One-down on Helen Lawrence resigning.
But a creditable half for calling the Port of Wangas shit exactly as it was. There are times we despair of our so-called friends.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Yeah and she gave all that up to work for micheal.....hmm

Every Diva needs an understudy.

Anonymous said...

A Fairy (Godmother) story

One day after he returned from his run around the mayoral carpark, Michael stood before the mirror admiring his sexy running gear, especially his skimpy little tight lycra shorts.

As he sighed with pleasure there was a flash of light and the Fairy Godmother appeared.

Michael, she said, I’ve only got time to grant you one free wish before I have to fly away back to Castlecliff and earn some cash to pay for my rates increase. It’s really hard to make ends meet since you cut my Community Contract funding, you know.

Michael sighed. Well, Fairy Godmother, look at me. I’m just so darned handsome, I couldn’t think of any way to improve on that. And I’ve got the car of my dreams, not to mention the best parking space in town. What I would really like, however, is to be recognised as a great leader, in the style of the Winstons (Churchill and Peters) and of course the Iron Lady herself, Margaret Thatcher.

The Fairy Godmother shook her head sadly as she contemplated his lycra shorts in the mirror. I’m afraid I can’t help you there Michael, she said. They’ve all got balls.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous, it seems you have been a victim of the dreaded shorts. Please accept my heartfelt condolences.

Anonymous said...

rumour schmumour.

Bob Walker, Alan Taylor, Graeme Adams, Stephen Palmer, Jodie Dalgleish (would she even stand?).

We need some out of left field too. Chas Poynter, Ken Mair, Paul Holmes.

Oh, and of course, Antoinette Beck.

Anonymous said...

Lawswatch, I understood you were joking. Still, in rumour-fueled Wangavegas...

Laws Watch said...

And if we were pissed as someone dared imply, could we spell prestidigitation?

LawsWatch is chaste, temperate in all things, and in bed before midnight. We don't want that Fairy Godmother coming round staring at our equipment.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to LawsWatch on getting a poll on the best anti-Laws contender for the by-election.

But how about another one - with the General Election so close. On who we're going to vote for our LOCAL MP and then who for the PARTY vote. Might be revealing.

Anonymous said...

Jodie Dalgleish.
Now there is an excellent by-election candidate. Businesswoman, proven arts lover, respected in the wider community. And more intelligence than Martin, Vinsen or Campion.

Anonymous said...

I listened to Jodie's annual plan submission, and I've seen her in action at meetings. She's capable, practical and quick. If she wanted the job she'd do it very well. I'm not convinced her profile's sufficiently high enough, but it could be.

But there you go...that leaves me pretty conflicted between her & John Martin, who has reach across a broad range of demographics. And he wears a kilt, so unless there's some sort of blood feud between him and the McGregors, he and the Don should get on.

Massed pipers at Guyton St.

Anonymous said...

I don't agree that the poll should be for the best anti-Laws contender. Just put the names in and vote. That way, we can have a look at the relative popularity of the diVisionaries also. Sure, it'll be providing information to Michael, but why not?

Anonymous said...

Jodie has broader appeal than Martin. She is a woman, and what if Vision selects a woman candidate? Also she is smarter than Martin who tends to drift in debate (did you see his pre-election performance at the racecourse? Dreadful) and would be easily outmanoeuvred by Laws. In fact, if you watch him, he tends to agree with whoever he's speaking to.
Not so Jodie. Strong, articulate, understands art and would not be cowered.

Anonymous said...

The other thing about John Martin is that he doesn't have the common touch. Jodie does.

Anonymous said...

Your making a very good case, and I think you may well be right. Will she stand?

Her organisation work on the State of the Arts was great.

Would she split the arts vote? Would she have cross-over appeal?
The second question is more important than the first.

I'm pretty sure she could stand up to Michael's bullying.

Anonymous said...

Jodie Dalgleish does have cross-over appeal. Putting aside her arts hat, she can write (see the Chron columns on the case for the Sarjeant extension), she is a businesswoman and entrepreneur. Peple loved that in this city - businesspeople get a recognition & respect they probably don't deserve.
John Martin is retired. Full stop. Do we need another retired old fogey on council?
No, we need someone smart, sassy, articulate who will appeal to women, the commercial sector and so on. If we select her NOW then we have at least 7 months to get her profile raised.

Anonymous said...

If the pundits on this blog are right about the general election, perhaps Jill Pettis will be looking for a job. Now if anybody could shut ML up, it's be Jill. Have you heard her in the House?

Anonymous said...

Jill for Mayor!

Anonymous said...

Wanganui's going to vote National. Yeah right. Compulsory bulk funding for schools and troops in the Middle East. Uh huh.

Anonymous said...

Some of you anons are blinkered with the art thing...
look from the 'average voter 'perspective...
a heck of a lot of voters will avoid an arts background candidate...
having been turned off the lot of them by the carping of SOS...

Anonymous said...

"Wanganui's going to vote National. Yeah right. "

One thing Wanga's not short of is racist rednecks. They love Winston and Michael knows how to push their buttons beautifully.

Yesterday Don Brash came to town with an immigration policy designed to pull the rug from under Winston and win back into the National fold anyone who's starting to get uncomfortable with Winston's worst excesses. The TV coverage sure showed a bunch of blue-rinse Winnie mob types at the Brash show.

Chris Trotter opined the other night that Winston First's slump in last week's polls was a result of the wavering Labour voters running back to Helen for the same reason.

And everywhere I go I here the blue rinsers saying what a wonderfully smart young man that Chester is, he got a law degree by lunchtime, don't you know?

Anonymous said...

"And everywhere I go I here ..."

oops - make that hear

Anonymous said...

Okay

Here's the candidates who missed the cut in October (No doubt Graeme Adams-who-isn't-leaving-town would be sucking up to Vision with his Grey Power platoon this time round):
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CAMPION, Margaret
5386
DAY, David
4947
ADAMS, Graham
Ratepayers Association 4837
BENNETT, David
4786
STREET, Joan
Vision Wanganui 4772
GREEN, Mike
Independent 4402
PALMER, Stephen Wade
Independent 4373
MITCHELL-ANYON, Ross
4104
HUNGERFORD-MORGAN, Timothy
Ratepayers Association 3930
WRIGHT, Les
ratepayers Association 3560
DONSON, Carla
Independent 3216
ANDREWS, Ormond Joseph
2966
SMITH, Heather Marion
Ratepayers Association 2781
GRANT-FARGIE, Tony
Ratepayers Association 2584
ENNIS, Jim
2363
McDONNELL, Shane
2045
SMITH, Keely
New Energy Wanganui 1692
MILNES, John
New Energy Wanganui 1566
BROUGHAM, Ian
1362
HOWE, Shane
Independent 1344
DALZIEL, Frances
1130

Anonymous said...

I agree about the "Arts" thing. I'm a staunch arts supporter and we need a broader based candidate. So does Wanganui. More people participate in Arts than Sports, so it shouldn't be hard.

Anonymous said...

Anon said:

"One thing Wanga's not short of is racist rednecks. "

So I keep hearing, but I never actually meet any. Are you sure there are as many as you think? Surely the level of popularity for Winston First is a good barometer: going down!

Anonymous said...

And why would a racist redneck vote for Brash anyway, with his "asian" wife? I think Wanganui has far more "average ratepayer" types than rednecks.

Anonymous said...

Well, Winston got 600 of them out a couple of months ago, Brash got about 200 yesterday.

If you want to find a racist redneck just walk into any sports club, bar etc and say the name Ken Mair - and be prepared to run for your life.

Anonymous said...

Sportsbar patrons as racists, eh? Could it possibly be that Mr. Mair is unpopular because of his politics?

Anonymous said...

I vote Labour, and I find the assertion that National party supporter are racists simply offensive. Deluded, pro-US puppets, yes, but racist?

You've descended to Laws' level.

Anonymous said...

It wasn't designed as a criticism per se, just real politik. And Brash knows it. Ergo, Orewa I and yesterday's echoes of Winston on immigrants being blamed for everything from rising property values, crime, and of course the obligatory spooky story about the Maori convert to Islam who supports bin Laden, immigrants who put their own cultures before becoming kiwis, etc I could go on. But his audience at the racecourse loved it all.

Anonymous said...

I just don't think there are as many of them as you aver. There are other reasons why people vote National.

Anonymous said...

So what is happening with the story that Laws has been talking to Winston about a place on the NZ First list?

Winston seems to be keeping any announcement till the last possible moment. Do you think perhaps Laws is holding back to see where they are sitting in the polls before casting his lot in with Winston?

Anonymous said...

I won't believe that Laws is back on the Winston First list 'til I see it.

Anonymous said...

But I hope he is, because of the inevitable further slide in Winston First's fortunes it would signal.

Anonymous said...

I like the idea of LawsWatch doing a poll on how people feel about Jill vs Chester. But also do the list vote question. Then if Laws does crawl out of the Winston First woodwork we'll be able to see what effect, if any, that has.

So, have we exhausted the list of names to go on the by-election poll?

What about Carla Donson. She stood last time and didn't do too well but she's pretty well known and well-respected for her community work. Would probably get her share of the female vote?

Anonymous said...

We're all being a bit optimistic given the lack of interest in the polls here.

I have a theory about that: people don't like clicking buttons online: html link good, button bad.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many people who would otherwise be candidates will have been put off by Laws' presence. A relatively influential local "name" has been heard to remark: "Talking to Michael Laws is a waste of life."

Anyone with similar opinions would hardly want to have to work with him.

Anonymous said...

At least one person who would be an excellent candidate is planning to leave town for a couple of years because they've "had enough of Laws".

Anonymous said...

That sucks - why can't people realise that the correct response is to run him out of town, or at least back to Op-Ed gobshite.

Anonymous said...

We can't run him out of town, dummy. He won.

Anonymous said...

Elections have a funny way of occuring every 3 years. And what about an angry mob with dogs and pitchforks?

Anonymous said...

Any ideas who Vision might put up?

Anonymous said...

Vision could put up a 3 legged blind donkey and it would get in. Most multi issue Wanganuites appreciate their rates bill and dont give a monkeys who MLs is stirring up.

Anonymous said...

Fair point, Vision did that last time and Nikki and Muzza got home ok

Anonymous said...

I believe Dot's Dick would be a good option

Anonymous said...

I've heard two names.
Richard Moore is one.
Bob Walker is the other.
But I think Laws might be smarter than that and go with a Sue Pepperell type candidate.
Which is why ... Jodie Dalglish is the best candidate in response.

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Anonymous said...

Sally Patrick